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1817/3 Capped Bust Half Dollar O-101A Keep Or Return?

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This one has an older cleaning. I picked up this overdate (not advertised as such) for $217 with return privilege, if nothing else just to get a better look.

The coin took what looks like an unfortunate strike or scratch from the dentical up along the right side of the seven and that along with circulation wear and tear has made the remnants of the 3 much less apparent on this copy.

First photos are what it looks like in hand. Second set with additional lighting to better see details.

So, what are your thoughts on this one, grade, keep, return, or other?

Thx, Adam

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 Posted 12/06/2024  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would return it. The coin is screaming cleaned at me.
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 Posted 12/06/2024  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, surfaces messed with, send it back.
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Agree, looks like an old cleaning, and the possible damage around the date that obscures the overdate doesn't help. Not a strong example of that variety.
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 Posted 12/06/2024  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would return it.
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 Posted 12/06/2024  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I bought an example of this date specifically because the over date is so strong and obvious. The OP's coin is a very substandard piece, even before you consider cleaning and damage. Absolutely, send it back.
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 Posted 12/07/2024  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adam126402 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's on its way back. As always, thanks for the feedback.
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 Posted 12/07/2024  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A wise decision, I think.
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For a cleaned coin it had a nice look. Looks more like it was rubbed then a full blown cleaning. Lots of original dirt left in the protected areas.
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 Posted 12/07/2024  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the overdate was apparent, that would be a good deal. But there is no point in paying overdate premium if you can't even see it. This is what it is supposed to look like:


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The overdate was tooled off. @jacrispies and I discussed this when it was up for auction. Agreed with the return consensus.
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Miss...return it
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Foolish to tool off the overdate. What were they thinking?
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 Posted 12/10/2024  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Foolish to tool off the overdate. What were they thinking?


I've seen someone tool off the beard on a bearded goddess

People do crazy things!
Suffering from bust half fever.
Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955
Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves.
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