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 Welcome to the forum coin21! First, it is always helpful if you crop your photos more closely, and provide additional information, such as the size (diameter in mm) of the coins, and if possible their weight. In this case, some are quickly recognizable by some key features. #2,3 appear to be billon solidus from Livonia under Swedish rule. #4,6 (maybe also 5) appear to be Byzantine, about 1000 years older than the Livonian coins. Ths may get you started... |
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A bit more ... For coin #2, see this type. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces41643.htmlYou can see that your Photo #4 matches well with the reverse (right) photo in the Numista listing for the coin. If you take your photo 3 and rotate it 90 degrees counterclockwise, you will see it matches the obverse (left) photo, at least to the extent we can see it. For coin #3, see this type: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces31705.htmlYou can see in your photo #6 a portion of the lettering which matches (...OLVS GVS...). Both of these types were heavily couterfeited in a mint in southeast Europe later in the mid-17th century, and the very poor quality of these two coins (including the severe mis-alignment of the obverse and reverse dies) means they are possibly counterfeits. I think someone else will be able to help you with the Byzantine coins. Edited by tdziemia
12/30/2024 3:40 pm
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5 should be byzantine also. M for the denomination is visible as in 4.
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First, it is always helpful if you crop your photos more closely, and provide additional information, such as the size (diameter in mm) of the coins, and if possible their weight.  I can't make any sense of the mintmark on the 6th coin (AEIIA?) and I suspect it might be an Arab-Byzantine type. The 5th coin is an overstruck Byzantine (probably-)follis but I wouldn't be able to say much more than that without better-cropped pics; the design is an absolute jumble because of the overstrike. The 4th coin appears to also be a Byzantine follis, officina 5 (epsilon) of not sure which mint. I suspect that the chi-rho above M would narrow the options a lot but offhand I can't give a time range. It might be older than 7th century. [EDIT: from a brief search, there are several types it could be, but all of them are of Heraclius, 610-641.] The 1st coin looks a bit like an Indian jital from very late in the bull-and-horseman series, with the bull side replaced by legend. I'm not very confident, though. Again, better-cropped photos would help. |
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I can't make any sense of the mintmark on the 6th coin (AEIIA?) and I suspect it might be an Arab-Byzantine type. I think it could be Theoupolis (Antioch) which gets abbreviated something like THEUP, but it looks like the ANNO and THEUP have been contracted together on this coin so it looks like ANEUP? I can't find a follis from this mint with a single standing figure (Justin II + Sophia, or Heraclius + Heraclius COnstantine are options with two standing figures), so maybe that supports your hypothesis of an Arab-Byzantine type or some other imitation. |
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I think it could be Theoupolis (Antioch) which gets abbreviated something like THEUP, but it looks like the ANNO and THEUP have been contracted together on this coin so it looks like ANEUP?
I can't find a follis from this mint with a single standing figure (Justin II + Sophia, or Heraclius + Heraclius COnstantine are options with two standing figures), so maybe that supports your hypothesis of an Arab-Byzantine type or some other imitation. From what I can see it coin 6 looks most similar to these: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces165640.htmlhttps://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces368730.htmlbut I am confused what the difference is between these as one is labeled as "class 2" but I see almost no difference. |
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but I am confused what the difference is between these SB 1000 has ΑΝΑ to left (of the big M), while SB 1001 has ΟΦΑ to left and ΑΝΑ above. The OP's coin is SB 1001 (= Numista 165640), you can see the Φ at 9 hours. It appears to be 5th officina (epsilon), probably regnal year 2 (II) but I'm not very sure. Edited by january1may
01/04/2025 3:17 pm
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