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1942 Brass LWC, What Grade Would You Give This Coin?

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to the CCF, moneymoai! You do mean bronze instead of brass, correct? As for grade, I'll say VF- details.
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to the CCF, moneymoai! You do mean bronze instead of brass, correct?

Thanks! Nope, it's a wrong planchet error.
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@mon, since it seems like the intention of your thread is to get opinions on the grade, I'm going to move this thread over to the correct subforum.
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Thanks! Nope, it's a wrong planchet error.

OK. Would like to see some/any proof of that.
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OK. Would like to see some/any proof of that.

Purportedly. I got it from Hyatt Coins.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145548586936
100% positive feedback and been around since 1959, so if they lied to me....
But yes I should send it in for authentication.
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Thanks for posting that @moneym. It looks like the seller was being a little deceptive with this listing,
by using Brass in the description but referring to the "color" of the coin and not the metal composition.
I posted an auction result for a 1942 Lincoln Cent struck on a brass planchet for your reference.
https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...-45-anacs-oh
I would do some research on your coin before having it graded by a TPG company.
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As for the grade, I'll say VF.
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I would do some research on your coin before having it graded by a TPG company.
Weight. Metallurgy Testing to see what metals it has in it.

At the very least it's a thick planchet, weighs in at 3.3g
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As Tacc suggested, take your coin to the LCS or a pawn shop and have them test it with their XRF. Even if they charge $20 that's still cheaper than having it come back from a TPG in a body bag.
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Bronze cents (normal composition) were 95% copper and 5% tin & zinc. Brass cents (1944, '45 & '46) were 95% copper and 5% zinc. Both weighed 3.11 grams nominal with essentially identical specific gravity. Brass and bronze are nearly identical alloys.

I doubt any test would be conclusive re a '42 missing tin because it was such a small percentage of the total weight. i.e. Tin doesn't show up on an xrf wouldn't mean much if anything. Max spec weight was 3.24 grams from the mint so 3.30 grams is a touch high but would add no value.
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I doubt any test would be conclusive re a '42 missing tin because it was such a small percentage of the total weight. i.e. Tin doesn't show up on an xrf wouldn't mean much if anything.

Well somehow it's possible to differentiate between 10 centavos planchets and regular planchets.
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If the metallic content is significantly different the you should get valid results. My example wasn't the best because I was comparing shell-case brass cents to bronze cents. They are essentially identical but an off metal alloy in 1942 wouldn't have been shell-case brass.

Another question is why an experienced ebay coin seller (who also operates a brick & mortar coin shop) would claim their Wheat cent was struck on a rare off-metal planchet and then sell it for $7? If they really thought it was something special they would have followed up on it themselves. It seems they had a Wheat cent worth 5 cents and hoped to get $7 plus shipping for it. Just my 2 cents. You never know where lightning will strike.
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From the listing:

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Brass RARE Light Color

It seems they were fudging by saying it has a light color, not that it was necessarily made of brass. But it certainly is misleading.
Also, in the description:

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Composition        Copper
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Looks like a normal, circulated Wheat cent and worth 5 cents.

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I have one of those 1942 brass coins. The picture shows what the brass coin on the left looks like versus the copper coin on the right. The brass coin weighs 3.3 grams and the copper 3.1 grams. Your coin looks VF.

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