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Can anyone help me identify these coins? nr 1 3.07 gram 23 mm   |
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It's quite worn but the characters may be a charm instead of coin
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Song Dynasty, grass script. Grass script is very "messy" and hard to read, even on well-preserved examples of coins, which this one is not - it was quite well-worn before it was buried. Still, it's a thousand years old or thereabouts.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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I did think running hand for T, but not B,R or L.
Presume L is Bao and R is Tong or Zhong and L cannot be Yuan
Accepting T for Yuan in running or grass (either one) hand so it may be found in the books since the key character is known.
Just a matter of checking the pages in the books B,R & L.
Yuan Feng is a possible, probably not Fu or You.
Could very well be one of the Hartill 16.23X coins.
Edited by Albert
02/11/2025 8:14 pm
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Thank You for help. I was thinking about this one: 1 Cash - Yuanfeng Tongbao; Running script Hartill# 16.235, FD# 963, Schjoth# 547 but I have zero knowledge about cash coins, unfortunetly  |
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Next one for identification - example number 2: 2.36 gram / 19 mm   |
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If you have Hartill you should also have the finding guide.
At first glace I'd begin with Tao-kwong 1820-1850
Dao Guang TB Suzhou mint
Edited by Albert
02/12/2025 2:28 pm
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No Albert, I don't have any Asian coins catalog
Thank You for reply !
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02/12/2025 3:15 pm
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Start with a Hartill 22.620 number where you search online.
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Thank You Albert. You are right, looks like 1 Cash - Daoguang Tongbao; Boo-su Now example 3 / 11 0.93 gram / 21 mm   |
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Looks like Minh Mang Vietnam
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I would concur; a Vietnamese cash, rather than Chinese. And from the crudeness of the casting I would suspect a "private cast" (i.e. a circulating counterfeit) rather than an actual government issue.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Also some periods were known for poor quality crummy coins with excess metal.
Some other periods had very high quality as mentioned in Barker.
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Sap, Albert again thank You so much ! Example: 4/11 2.28 gram / 20 mm   |
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Tough one.
Yuan or Nguyen is at top.
Square head Tong right
Bao at left
Bottom is far gone but resembles Yuan De tong bao- but that's maybe too old to have such a mint mark?
Could be Yuan Fu or Yuan You
Check to see if it's iron
Mint mark is far gone, could be any one of several.
Maybe some can do a better job with the poorly preserved characters?
Wonder if it could be Yunnan Province?
Maybe Yuwan Board of Works Peking?
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02/13/2025 6:08 pm
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This coin is probably Qing Dynasty
Emperor De Zong 1875-1908
Guang Xu tong bao
Hartill 22.xxxx
Could be Boo yuwan or chiowan
But chiowan descends farther below the square hole
I was led astray because the inscription matches some Vietnam coins, and after studying Vietnam (slapping my forehead), I realized it has a Qing dynasty mint mark.
Another excuse is that the Guang Xu is so poor it can be easily confused with similar Vietnamese & Chinese characters written in different styles.
I have no doubt others were trying to pin this one down.
I hope they post and say what they were finding.
Took me a while only to find it's not old at all.
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