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Die Crack, Die Break, Cud, Split Die, Or Shattered Die? 2014 D Quarter

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 Posted 03/16/2025  8:00 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Meemsz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here's an update to original post




http://goccf.com/t/477584


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More screen shots - strike 2
http://goccf.com/t/478890
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03/16/2025 8:19 pm
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 Posted 03/16/2025  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's PMD, not an error. The displaced metal gives it away.
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 Posted 03/16/2025  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me, coin appears to be out of round.... PMD
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Hammer mechanics........
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@ Marve65...Thanks for sharing that childhood home video of yourself...
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I'm not convinced this is PMD and need better photos before I can agree with the consensus opinion.

Nice full sized photos of obverse and reverse are needed as are photos of the defect, perhaps backed off a little further to establish context, and of the area closer to the bottom of the reverse side as well.

While I agree with the premise that raised metal usually means PMD, that's not always the case. Laminations and clad layer defects, for instance, can sometimes remain raised, even after the coin is struck.

What we can rule out is any kind of cutting device being used since there's no pinching at the edges and no signs of any cutting damage on the obverse.

There's a lot going on with this coin. Notice the lack of rims and faint devices (Quarter and TES OF AMER) on the obverse, almost in a polar fashion?

Photo 2 below is of the reverse and shows almost no devices at the edge. Why? Can't be grease in the dies because a Grease Filled Die produces strong rims. Could this be a weak strike combined with PMD?

Possibly, but photo 2 shows at the extreme right hand side what looks like the beginning of a split in the clad layer.

Also, what's with the unusual texture to the fields around TATES on the obverse, Washington's neck and then again on the reverse at K1 and K2 moving diagonally across fields?

All this may be for naught, but those better photos would really help answer some questions.
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.Thanks for sharing that childhood home video of yourself..

They didn't have cameras back then!
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 Posted 03/18/2025  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin was clearly damaged outside the Mint. It's not an error.
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 Posted 03/18/2025  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meemsz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tbh I think id rather just send it in and find out if it is or isn't
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 Posted 03/18/2025  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meemsz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But thank you all for your feedback much appreciated if it comes out to be something I'll post about it
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Tbh I think id rather just send it in and find out if it is or isn't


Don't do it. You're just throwing your money away. Mike Diamond is an expert and confirmed that it's Post Mint Damage ( PMD). You'd be wasting a lot of time and money sending it in. Why don't you believe us?
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Clearly damaged outside of the mint. Sometimes getting coins back from the grading services in body bags is an expensive learning experience that needs to occur. It doesn't help when people post messages that they aren't convinced that its post mint damage.
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Lol I guess the what if is what's making me take a chance and if it's not well yall told me so I always gotta learn the hard way
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It was just hammered on the reverse - you can see the protruding metal on the obverse.........and that is why the letters are flat too.......
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