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Unidentifiable Copper Coin , Very Faded. Need Expert Help

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 Posted 03/20/2025  09:15 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Duck2025 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello coin community forum, I am John, Located in Liverpool, England

Long story short , I inherited a large coin collection from my mother who recently passed, and I have decided to expand the collection and continue it.

Recently I bought a bulk lot, from a reputable seller on ebay website, to help bolster the collection.

One of the coins inside the lot was a very faded, copper colour coin (Could be bronze or some other metal.). I cannot make it out very well at all, I will add the images I have. Once reduced to the 300kb limit it is the best I can do). It is not in the best condition and I can barely make anything out of it in person, so I understand it will be difficult from photographs.

It is approx. 1 1/4 inch side to side (about 3.3cm) and seems to have a bust facing to the right on one side, and possibly some sort of figure either facing left or forwards on the rear. Looks to me that it could be on a horse. But I am uncertain and really that is just what my eyes see through the faded metal and the scratches.

It feels like it is a hammered coin , it kind of dips in the centre , can feel the texture of the profile on the front and on the rear.

The orange outline on the pictures is trying to show what I see but also the original will be uploaded.

I am posting here to hopefully gain some insight into what the coin could possibly be from some members who are much more knowledgeable and familiar with coins and collecting than myself.

Google image search suggested it to be a Netherlands Overijssel Duit Dutch 1766 coin, but this is way off the mark.

Any help would be appreciated.

(Hopefully I didn't break any forum rules, the topic is in the correct place, and will try to upload photos without errors)

EDIT - The weight of the coin is 13 grams
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03/20/2025 09:23 am
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 Posted 03/20/2025  09:27 am  Show Profile   Check ClusterCoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ClusterCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could be a George III penny, but the weight is low. Then again, a few grams would have been shaved off it.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces12981.html

It looks like George III on one side and Britannia on the other.
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03/20/2025 09:28 am
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 Posted 03/20/2025  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can plausibly see the faint outline of a person on one side and Britannia seated on the other. Especially given where you live, I think that @ClusterCoin is correct.
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 Posted 03/20/2025  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Duck2025 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the suggestion, I don't think actually have a George iii Penny to directly compare physically, I have a 1807 George iii coin and a 1775 George iii coin, but I think they are possibly the half penny coins, (it is the same size as my queen Elizabeth half pennies)

The oldest Penny I have is 1864, and this copper coin is larger than that, but I am not sure if the George iii pennies were larger. I shall try to find out, Thanks for a lead and some info I can look into. Appreciate it
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 Posted 03/20/2025  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 03/20/2025  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Duck2025 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, to you all. I think you are correct, thanks for taking the time to give a reply. I really appreciate the help.
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 Posted 03/20/2025  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At 13 grams I'd have expected the 1799 halfpenny (12.6 grams nominal weight) rather than the 1806/7 penny (18.9 grams), but I agree that such a worn coin would likely have lost a gram or two. The diameter would tell for sure (30 mm for halfpenny, 34 mm for penny).

EDIT: if it's about the same size as a predecimal Elizabeth II penny, or slightly smaller, it's an 1797 halfpenny. If it's significantly larger, it's an 1806/7 penny.
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 Posted 04/09/2025  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David Graham to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Am I the only one seeing the irony of posting a coin in a coin identification forum and using the heading "Unidentifiable Copper Coin"?
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