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2005 Mor Upset

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 Posted 05/25/2009  03:03 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dollarmule to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Anyone seen or got a 2005 MOR $1 that is upset by 30 degrees? I have one and want to know if it is particularly scarce?
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G'day, I'm not into errors in a major way, but if I found one, I'd hang onto it, of course.
Against that background: I haven't heard of any 2005 upsets.
But, where there's one, there's probably more.
Having said that, upsets, as in rotated dies, are not often seen in the coins of Oz.
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 Posted 05/25/2009  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice! It's about time I checked my decimal coins for upsets.
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It's the first I've heard of a 2005 $1 MOR upset.

Definitely a keeper. In my opinion, pretty scarce too!
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Hi,
There's another upset just like this in a 'buy it now' sale on online auction (yes that one) and the seller has some info on the coin / pic / rarity.
I have no opinion on the value but I am starting to agree that it may prove to be rare in nice condition.
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G'day, it is in the nature of errors that they don't come to light immediately.
Therefore, examples on the marketplace are often circulated, or heavily-circulated.
So, the market value is determined more by "rarity" than by "condition".

I did a search on "upset": eleven currently available;
nine for $40 or less;
one for $65; and
the sole 2005 specimen is asking $500.

To quote Darryl KERRIGAN: "... he's dreaming ..."

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lol yep $500 is a bit of a stretch eh?
The other two regular rotation / upset coins are Henry Parkes and the Fed dollar - seller told me another had offered a set with all 12 rotation FED degree upsets for $500 - that would have been a barg. The majority you would have found on search would have been Federations.
Until I see more than another specimen (other than advertised + mine) - I return back to my original question ..has anyone else got one ? Grade will alwaysdtermine final price - no matter how late discovered or rare a coin is!
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I meant that grade will determine the price of like varieties ...yes?
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quote: "grade will determine the price of like varieties ...yes?"
- exactly.

On the old Australian forum, which closed a year or more ago, there was an active discussion of CoF roatations. One collector, who was allowed to noodle the change in several licenced clubs, was searching several thousand $1 each week. He completed a "clock set", with rotations at each point of the clockface. He then started on the intermediate points (15, 45, 75 degrees, etc).

He also went to the trouble of making a device which included a protractor, to facilitate measurement of the rotation.

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He also went to the trouble of making a device which included a protractor, to facilitate measurement of the rotation.


I bought one of his devices for measuring the degree of rotation. It's pretty good, but I don't find many upsets, so it doesn't get much use.
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