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I Need A Bit Of Help Finding This Japanese Coin In Numista.

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I have this Japanese coin that I cannot find in Numista.
It is dated to 1870 (year 3 Meiji) and is a 1 yen coin 'large type'.
Weight is 26.41g
Diameter is 39.8mm
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Search Wiki for Countermarked yen "Gin" - I tried posting the link but it fritzes out.
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It's not genuine and is the wrong type. Would ask for your money back
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thanks @gxseries
That is what I was thinking as well, but what do you mean about wrong type?

I don't even think it is silver - as it failed the 'tissue' test I did on it yesterday.
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Additional information for future Numista searches ...

If the countermark signifies intended use in a different place, Numista lists it under the other place, and not under the country of the host coin.
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1870 yen is struck with the sun ray on the reverse, not this wreath.

Details look wrong too
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If the countermark signifies intended use in a different place, Numista lists it under the other place, and not under the country of the host coin.

thanks for that Trigg

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1870 yen is struck with the sun ray on the reverse, not this wreath.

Details look wrong too

Yeah well the image the seller was a bit small to see any decent details on it. My images are MUCH better than that of the sellers.
And yes, I see now that the reverse is wrong on this piece. I usually search Numista first, I think that I didn't this time. I se all the design elements for the 1870 coins that didn't match the one I got Like I said, I searched Numista AFTER the fact. Lesson learned there.
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Here's a 1870 yen. One year type



This is the yen issued in later years



You have a Trade dollar which was struck for 3 years



And finally a gold yen

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