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Lenzos 57 Valued Member Canada 163 Posts	Posted 05/19/2025 11:42 am Hi everybody I found this one when I checked a few rolls of wheat and I would like to know the cause ? Thank you very much for your help Report this Post to the Staff

Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 73874 Posts	Posted 05/19/2025 12:51 pm Maybe a Greaser? Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21593 Posts	Posted 05/19/2025 1:38 pm Looks like a minor Grease Filled Die. Not too uncommon. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187950 Posts	Posted 05/19/2025 1:53 pm I agree as well. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Marv65 Bedrock of the Community United States 10492 Posts	Posted 05/19/2025 5:37 pm A " Greaser" - Grease Filled Die. That happens on the steel cents kind of frequently for some reason. Report this Post to the Staff
fortcollins Pillar of the Community United States 3632 Posts	Posted 05/19/2025 6:16 pm There is a bit of debate about the "ghost 4" coins of 1943. They are extremely common, affecting about a quarter of all of the coins. It's almost always the third digit of the date that is missing and it affects coins from all three mints. If it's grease, why is the third digit affected more than the other digits? I've heard it suggested, but without any evidence, that there may have been a broken hub four. There are a lot of broken hub coins in this era. The broken hub "R" in LIBERTY in 1936, the broken hub second "T" in trust in 1941, and the broken hub "6" in 1956, to name just three. Just one more mystery from this era. Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19134 Posts	Posted 05/19/2025 6:18 pm I've come across many of these. If coins could talk... Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95322 Posts	Posted 05/19/2025 9:42 pm Quote: that there may have been a broken hub four. Quite possible - after all (If I'm thinking correctly) that on a hub the devices are raised, in order to make the working dies. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
fortcollins Pillar of the Community United States 3632 Posts	Posted 05/20/2025 11:12 am Quote: Quite possible - after all (If I'm thinking correctly) that on a hub the devices are raised, in order to make the working dies. A related question is whether there are any 1943 DDOs lurking out there with a broken hub four over an intact four or an intact over broken four. Also, if the four was broken almost completely, what would be visible, especially on a circulated coin? The 1936 cents are all intact "R" over broken "R" in LIBERTY. The 1941 cents are a mixture of intact/broken, broken/intact, intact/intact, and broken/broken second "T" in TRUST. On the other hand, I'm not aware of any 1956 cent that is confirmed as either broken/intact or intact/broken "6" in the date, although I have paused more than once when looking at 1956-D DDO-005. There are also the 1943/1942-S and the three major 1949-S DDOs where the 1949 was hubbed over a 194 from 1948, but those are different situations. Here's another part of the question. The arch inside the four - the opening in the four - would be recessed on a hub. A broken four wouldn't eliminate the arch. Why isn't its outline clear or at least visible on the "ghost four" coins? Edited by fortcollins 05/20/2025 11:20 am Report this Post to the Staff
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