1974 Lincoln Memorial Cent / LMC Double Die? Help!

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Twangator Valued Member United States 153 Posts	Posted 05/27/2009 5:12 pm Hello Y'all, here is one that stumped me. Its a 1974-P LMC (found in a bank roll), it has some kind of doubling on the reverse, the "UNITED" is doubled from "ITED" and on "STATES", "ATES" is doubled. "OF" is slightly doubled. The word "CENT" has "NT" clearly doubled and most of the corner edges of the Lincoln Memorial Building are doubled. The thing that stumps me is that not all the words are doubled and some are more than others. I could not find ANY info anywhere about this. One last thing on the obverse Abe has a gouge on his ear. Can you all help? Report this Post to the Staff

bill069 Pillar of the Community United States 608 Posts	Posted 05/27/2009 5:18 pm It sure looks it to me, lets see what the pros say! Report this Post to the Staff
Twangator Valued Member United States 153 Posts	Posted 05/27/2009 5:21 pm Thanks for the quick response bill069! Does anyone know if it is a double die, what sort of monitary value does it have if the double die is not listed anywhere? Report this Post to the Staff
madzdad71 Valued Member United States 377 Posts	Posted 05/27/2009 5:57 pm Looks like MD to me. I'd say I'm 99.9% sure thats its MD Edited by madzdad71 05/27/2009 5:58 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Twangator Valued Member United States 153 Posts	Posted 05/27/2009 6:15 pm Sorry I'm new at this, what is "MD"? Report this Post to the Staff
madzdad71 Valued Member United States 377 Posts	Posted 05/27/2009 6:27 pm Quote: From seattleMD seattleMD Valued Member Regarding your questions of Machine Doubling vs Die Doubling: Machine Doubling results in normally flat and shelf-like doubling. It is usually much shallower than the device being doubled. I believe it is normally a result of nuances in how the coin is struck and how the dies shift when they impact and lift off the coin. Die Doubling is normally rounded and results in separation lines and corner notches on smaller devices. Die Doubling effects on larger devices is harder to distinguish (at least for me). Die Deterioration Doubling, which is the third type of doubling commonly mistaken for Die Doubling, sometimes appears similar to Machine Doubling, but in general occurs in the direction the metal flows - away from the center of the coin. If you see a device that appears thinner than normal and the doubling occurs on both sides, this is what I normally attribute to Die Deterioration Doubling. These are general guidelines that I follow. There are always exceptions to the case though and the more experienced folks on here can help when you're not sure. Sometimes simply a photo will not be enough and you'll need to send it in for closer examination by hand from a professional attributer. Report this Post to the Staff
Twangator Valued Member United States 153 Posts	Posted 05/27/2009 6:39 pm :( So the coin is only worth .01 cent then?:( Report this Post to the Staff
BadThad Bedrock of the Community United States 19935 Posts	Posted 05/28/2009 09:24 am That's MD, sorry to break your heart. Also, the correct term is "DOUBLED DIE". Lincoln Cent Lover! VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/ Report this Post to the Staff
numismo Rest in Peace United States 3039 Posts	Posted 05/28/2009 10:20 am It's Machine Doubling. I used to be fooled all the time and get excited when I saw it. Now I'm only fooled a little bit by MD until those more knowledgeable folks on this forum set me straight. However, every so often I find a real DD. See my post on the variety forum about the 1983 LMC DR (in fact, I think your post belongs over there too). Welcome and keep on looking. They're out there. Report this Post to the Staff
Twangator Valued Member United States 153 Posts	Posted 05/28/2009 5:54 pm I am now heart broken! Oh well I am still going to put it on a 2x2 and keep it as a strong case of MD. Hopefully I will find my first DD soon. Thank you all! Report this Post to the Staff
daviscfad Pillar of the Community United States 4541 Posts	Posted 05/28/2009 6:00 pm i will say it is MD also. Keep searching you will find a doubled die. When you do you will say wow thats a lot different from Machine Doubling. I found a 95 doubled die a few months ago so it helps looking at one in hand Report this Post to the Staff
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1974 LMC Double Die? Help!