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Possible 1936 Lincoln Cent DDO FS-103

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Just searched through another three hundred 1936-P Lincoln cents and may not have found a couple of DDO FS-103 coins.

Please see attached photos. Both have a LIBERTY "R" peg leg. Thank you.


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Not seeing the spread on IGWT or Liberty. I don't think it's FS-103. See FS-103 on VV. Note how there's a spread on IGWT? http://www.varietyvista.com/01a%20L...6PDDO003.htm
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Agree w/ E&V, not seeing the West/N/W spread on IGWT.
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The first coin has to be either DDO-002 or DDO-003. The question is which one. Would you be willing to post full-coin obverse and reverse photos of the first coin? A closeup of the right wheat stalk to the right of the T in CENT would be helpful. There is a key DDO-003 marker there (a N-S die crack inside the wheat stalk), and it should be visible even on a circulated coin.

In later die states and with heavy circulation wear, a lot of the obverse identifying factors visible on the higher grade and EDS coins are gone. The date on your first coin looks more consistent with DDO-002, especially the "6" in the date.

The second coin looks more like a damaged "R" in LIBERTY than any of the three rehubbed "Rs". The DDO-001 rehubbed "R" is doubled to the east, and the DDO-002 and DDO-003 rehubbed "Rs" don't taper the way that second coin does.

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Not seeing the spread on IGWT or Liberty. I don't think it's FS-103. See FS-103 on VV. Note how there's a spread on IGWT?


Admittedly, the coin has seen a lot of circulation. However, please see photo of "WE" in motto. The spread is easier to see. I've also added photo from Wexler site for comparison.


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After seeing the pic of WE, I am seeing similarities between your coin & FS 103. Splits/notching especially at the top of the W.
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After looking at the comparison pictures, it could be FS-103. It's worn down from circulation.
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FortCollins - A closeup of the right wheat stalk to the right of the T in CENT would be helpful. There is a key DDO-003 marker there (a N-S die crack inside the wheat stalk), and it should be visible even on a circulated coin.


Please see two photos of R wheat stalk attached. I looked at the example on CopperCoins website. But, I had to use more imagination than I would have liked to distinguish a die crack running parallel to a wheat stalk line.

Also, full obverse and reverse photos attached.



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Not all of the markers are visible on your coin, but some of them are. (That's not unusual on heavily circulated coins, and it doesn't take all of the markers to be sure.) The whole coin photos help. They show doubling consistent with DDO-003 (FS-103) / 1-DO-003 / WDDO-003.

I can see the die gouge below TY of LIBERTY, the die damage near the top of the second A in AMERICA, the die recess/channel below the 6 in the date, split serifs in the W of WE, and the die crack on the right crossbar of the first T in TRUST. The rest of the coin looks consistent with MDS/LMDS. There's just too much wear to see the die crack, but that could also mean the coin is MDS, and the crack appears in LDS.

Looks like you got it!
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It's worn down from circulation.
That is a decent probability.

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Looks like you got it!
Agreed. Another interesting find.
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FortCollins - Not all of the markers are visible on your coin, but some of them are. (That's not unusual on heavily circulated coins, and it doesn't take all of the markers to be sure.) The whole coin photos help. They show doubling consistent with DDO-003 (FS-103) / 1-DO-003 / WDDO-003.


Fort Collins, Thanks for taking time to help me with the attribution ... and for providing the additional information on die markers.

And thanks to everyone else for contributing. It really does seem like two (or more) heads are better than one when tackling dicey attributions.
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