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2007 Double Headed 5 Cent

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 Posted 05/31/2009  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manila galleon trade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The edge of the coin doesn't look right, it is not even in thickness. One way of taking 1 photo for 2 sides of a coin is to use a mirror.
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 Posted 06/03/2009  08:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim Archibald to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Flipper's" are mass produced by using a metal lathe hollowing out one nickel like a cup and reducing the diameter of the second so that it fits into this cup-like depression. They are made as novelty coins and sell for about $4.00 in novelty shops.
You might try checking the sound as I suggested earlier and look at the coins alignment to see if it's correctly aligned. These flipper's often get put together way off so that could tell you.

Here's a list currently offered on ebay, at some healthy prices considering they're just junk.. http://shop.ebay.com/items/two%20he...md=1&_sop=12
Here's a page that tells you how to tell for sure,from about.com
http://coins.about.com/od/errorcoin...ded_coin.htm

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Here's a quote from Ken Potter's variety & error website...a "genuine" piece has never been proven found in circulation, and more importantly, they should know that tens-of-thousands of faked double-headed and double-tailed (and other similar mismatched concoctions) have been made from genuine coins altered by machine shops after the coins left the Mint. These have been offered for sale by novelty concerns like magic shops and through ads in comic books for decades for prices starting at about $3 or $4 for cents up to about $8 or $10 on half dollar coins. Many of these get into circulation quite innocently and are later found by unsuspecting collectors who think they found rare Mint errors! Such is not the case!

I tried to find a article on the actual production of these coins but I couldn't find anything with pictures. If anyone knows of such a site, maybe they will post it. I've seen people actually finding separated pieces of these coins in change also. One person emailed me, thinking that he found a die cap, unfortunately is was just a section of a two tailed Quarter. ~ Jim
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 Posted 06/08/2009  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John Paul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any update on this? Did you ever do any of the tests to see if it is a fake?
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 Posted 06/13/2009  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kristofferson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The join will be on the inside of the rim on one side of the coin just where the rim meets the field of the coin. I have several double headed and tailed flipper coins. What is really fun are the hollowed out coins used to transport microfilm during the cold war or earlier.
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 Posted 06/16/2009  05:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add neild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As of yet I haven't conducted any tests (just been too busy) but hope to have the crack test done by the end of the week
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 Posted 06/18/2009  04:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add neild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
have conducted the crack test no joins found, this test was a industrial dye penetrate test that would have detected any joins(sorry I didn't get any photos)
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 Posted 06/18/2009  07:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Grant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm calling shenanigans.
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 Posted 07/15/2009  02:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spotedmech to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i have also found a double headed 5 cent coin dated 2007.
this coin was found in general circulation.
it appears to be the real thing.
anyone with any idea of its value other than 5 cents australian?
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 Posted 07/15/2009  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alexd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have also found a double headed 2007 5c coin amongst coin I clean collected from a wishing fountain for a charity organisation. For neild & spotedmech can you indicate the orientation of the heads on each side? On the 1 I have the heads are displaced by approximately 180 degrees between front & back.
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 Posted 07/15/2009  02:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RFB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Drop testing should be the first tell tale sign of novelty coins.

We are not talking about MS coins, so a drop onto a solid counter from about 4 inches wont do any damage...but the ringing sound will be a dead give away.

Novelty coins thud when dropped. True examples ring conventionally.

Compare it to a known control subject.

I wish you the best in your find as always, but my money is on it being a novelty.
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 Posted 07/18/2009  03:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add neild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hi all,
very interesting that another of these has turned up, and that both were found in circulation, spot. any chances of photos or tests, you may have an uphill battle as many people are quick to dismiss these as joke coins however I believe mine to be genuine. Also on mine I have noticed that the reverse and the obverse are rotated 180 and not some random amount
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 Posted 07/18/2009  03:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, so odd 2 being found in circulation, but it could be they're from the same factory that made these trickster coins.

You do have an uphill battle, but if you take it to a grading company (I don't know of any in Oz) and they certify it as real, then you'll shut us up good... not to mention have a true rarity worth more than a few grand!

So, go to the coin stores and ask them what their opinions would be, and if you're still not sure, drop a $20 or so to have it sent to a grading company. Good luck!
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 Posted 07/18/2009  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add neild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
great point, can anyone recommend someone to take this coin for a professional opinion in the Sydney area, I'm sure every one would love to hear the results
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whats weird is how a new member post then 13 mins later another new member post. and how they joined on the same day
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 Posted 08/04/2009  02:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spotedmech to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DOUBLE HEADED AUSTRALIAN 5 CENT PIECE DATED 2007. LIKE "NEILD" I HAVE ALSO COME ACROSS A DOUBLE HEADED 5 CENT COIN? I DOUBT IF ANY ONE WOULD GO TO THE TROUBLE TO FAKE A COIN THAT IS ON THE EDGE OF EXTINCTION. IF ANYONE KNOWS ABOUT OTHER COINS LIKE IT OR ITS MARKET VALUE PLEASE CONTACT.
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