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2007 Double Headed 5 Cent

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 Posted 05/18/2017  02:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Noodle74 to your friends list
And? Did I miss something? LOL

No conspiracy theory here. It makes sense when someone finds a weird coin that they might then google it. Discover it's rare thanks to a news article. Then look on coin forums to find out more about it. Because I work with money all day I decided I should collect coins for a hobby.

From what I've read on other coin forums this 5c error isn't a very popular topic for some reason? Some collectors say they aren't real? It weighs and looks identical to a std 5c piece so I dunno? Or is everyone just grumpy cos they haven't found one
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 Posted 05/18/2017  07:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list

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5c error isn't a very popular topic for some reason
Believed to be a product of mint sport. In the 'real' coin minting world, it should be impossible for the Mint to turn out Double Headed coins 'accidentally'.

Therefore, not an accident, but done deliberately, possibly by a disgruntled staff member, who I dare say is no longer staff.

So Mint sport does not equal a genuine error.
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 Posted 05/18/2017  07:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hercules to your friends list
to the forum.

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5c error isn't a very popular topic for some reason

A lot of collectors believe that someone is deliberately seeding these coins around Sydney, and that people are signing up to this forum just to pretend that it's a legitimate error. I'm not accusing you of doing anything like that, but a lot of collectors are really suspicious at the moment, because we all know that such a coin cannot be produced accidentally. Thus, your testimony would carry a lot more weight if you were a regular member of this forum.
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 Posted 05/21/2017  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list
Hi Noodle74,
Can you post some pictures of the 5c you found?
What do you collect?
When did you start?
What else have you found?
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 Posted 05/21/2017  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list

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A lot of collectors believe that someone is deliberately seeding these coins around Sydney, and that people are signing up to this forum just to pretend that it's a legitimate error. I'm not accusing you of doing anything like that, but a lot of collectors are really suspicious at the moment, because we all know that such a coin cannot be produced accidentally


I agree,and the Poster is probably genuine as the smarties usually run up a few posts(in record time) before striking with the intended Post.
Forums and FB etc are being used to push Agenda's for various Coins/Errors amongst other more profitable scams..
When my Niece worked for an Advertising Agency part of the package to Clients was Social Media saturation.She used to post on Forums on how great a particular product or service was most afternoons.
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 Posted 05/29/2017  07:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Noodle74 to your friends list
Hi again. Yes, I am a real person. I've never collected coin but decided I should because it would be an obvious hobby as a bank teller and will take the monotony out of my day.

I'm starting out and collecting all the mints of oz and nz decimal currency because that's what interests me and is easy to find at work. However I have a lot of other countries sitting on my coffee table - not sure what to do with all that for now.

I have only found a few old sovereigns and pennies etc... to be honest I'm not looking to collect for selling... I just wanted a hobby. The 5c was a fluke and lucky it was shiny enough to catch my eye when I was looking through my change one Saturday.

Photos as requested... these pics are horrible quality but you get the idea. The flip is slightly rotated. I'm not sure what you technically call it but if I hold the coin head perfectly straight then flip it over the head is slightly rotated... say 20%?

Other than having two heads it looks and weighs like the other few thousand 5c coins I've counted over last few years.

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 Posted 05/29/2017  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Noodle74 to your friends list


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 Posted 05/29/2017  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Noodle74 to your friends list
Btw... I live in a very small town close to the QLD border... not Sydney.
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 Posted 05/29/2017  07:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list
....Noodle

Good luck to you,just shows they are spread around which is unusual for 5c,they usually don't travel far and end up in draws or tins.I haven't come across one yet.
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 Posted 05/29/2017  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hercules to your friends list

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The 5c was a fluke

Definitely. There were only a few hundred made.

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and lucky it was shiny enough to catch my eye

Obviously seeded by someone, because most of the other 2007 5c coins are showing signs of age.

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Btw... I live in a very small town close to the QLD border... not Sydney.

Thanks for the heads up. It's nice to know that they're heading towards Brisbane, because then I can collect one for myself.
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 Posted 05/30/2017  04:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Noodle74 to your friends list
I don't know what you mean by seeded but I will say from my experiences working with the bulk coin for our branch that you can get coins quite old coins that look practically new next to others from more recent years that look like they've been to heck and back. We regularly get folk drop in literally buckets of coin that they've been stockpiling and find all sorts of crazy variations in there (Including washers, funpark coin and watch batteries).

I'm an idiot that it's taken me this long to click to the fact I should be collecting. I'd hate to think how many coins I've counted over the last five years and never thought to looked for a wavy 20c or $1 mule... but I'm looking now :)
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Australia
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 Posted 05/31/2017  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hercules to your friends list
I think the "seeded" bit is still controversial. Some collectors think that someone in Sydney is deliberately putting these coins into circulation to make them seem like legitimate errors, rather than mint sport, while other collectors think that this person held onto them all and is selling them at inflated prices, and getting friends to sign up to this forum and post their "discoveries" online to make them seem legitimate.

Either way, a double-headed coin cannot be made by accident, so it clearly falls into the category of "mint sport". That doesn't mean it isn't valuable, just that many collectors don't value it as much as legitimate errors, like the wavy 20c and the $1/10c mule. Nevertheless, you could still get several thousand dollars for it on ebay, so it's definitely worth holding on to. I hope this helps.
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 Posted 08/31/2017  05:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zookeeperz to your friends list
It isn't impossible to have these coins made by accident USA minting is completely different and would be impossible to have this happen. But if Australian minting process is same as the UK which it most definitely is throughout history double headers have been found in circulation. Australia has 2 already listed in Renniks 1981 20 cent double obverse and 1977 2 cent double obverse. If it were me and I have done this before send the coin to the Australian mint and ask them what it is. S/A envelope inside so they can post it back. Found a few fake pounds and electroplated 1/2 pennies. No harm in asking. Human factor there will always be errors it's just we don't hear about them unless something leaks in to the public domain. Then all the announcements come out.
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 Posted 09/25/2017  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PNC king to your friends list
plenty are turning up these days , they might not be worth as much as people think as some people have a stock pile of them
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 Posted 01/06/2018  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list

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Australia has 2 already listed in Renniks 1981 20 cent double obverse and 1977 2 cent double obverse. If it were me and I have done this before send the coin to the Australian mint and ask them what it is. S/A envelope inside so they can post it back. Found a few fake pounds and electroplated 1/2 pennies. No harm in asking. Human factor there will always be errors it's just we don't hear about them unless something leaks in to the public domain. Then all the announcements come out.


I think the RAM has stopped doing verifications. Also, there is the suggestion that these sorts of coins are concocted by unscrupulous mint staff.
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