In-Line Triple Struck 1806 C-1 Half Cent, Horribly Misdiagnosed As Something Else

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Oldgrouchyguy Pillar of the Community United States 630 Posts	Posted 07/07/2025 2:46 pm Hello Everyone! Here is something fun; it was in a 3PG holder marked "Struck on a Spoiled Planchet". I wish!! There isn't one in Davy like this... The edge is perfect and it passed through the Upsetting Mill no problem. I think that circular line between the 2nd & 3rd strikes in the denticles is the tip of the bust. Of course, the denticles of the overstrikes point Outwards! Report this Post to the Staff

JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21601 Posts	Posted 07/07/2025 3:00 pm An early vise job? Report this Post to the Staff
Marv65 Bedrock of the Community United States 10515 Posts	Posted 07/07/2025 3:01 pm If it was struck by dies wouldn't the reverse have denticles struck on it too instead of just being "smashed"? Report this Post to the Staff
Oldgrouchyguy Pillar of the Community United States 630 Posts	Posted 07/07/2025 3:33 pm JimmyD: No, please reread where this piece passed through the Upsetting Mill no problem, with a perfect rim Marv65: You would think so, but not for this piece: the denticles are always there, just in this die state they are very far back in the die and not seen on normal strikes. The reason that you see nothing on the reverse at that spot (except roughness!) is that this is what called a "Brockage Maker". There are many of them in the Davy Sale, and it's explained there better than I can to you Edited by Oldgrouchyguy 07/07/2025 3:37 pm Report this Post to the Staff
JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21601 Posts	Posted 07/07/2025 3:38 pm How did it pass through the upsetting mill when you can see the reverse is out of round. Edited by JimmyD 07/07/2025 3:39 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Oldgrouchyguy Pillar of the Community United States 630 Posts	Posted 07/07/2025 4:36 pm It's within tolerance; the device had to have a certain amount of "give" there. I could show you a wacky edged coin that passed through the Mill, even though it shouldn't have: this one actually got caught in the device, leaving two edge imprints just like you'd see on a 12-sided Canadian nickel Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188213 Posts	Posted 07/07/2025 4:36 pm Interesting. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
jacrispies Pillar of the Community United States 3848 Posts	Posted 07/07/2025 5:32 pm This does not look triple struck. The opposite side has obvious damage that is not the effect of any mint machinery. The "dentils" on the rim are not even the same size as what is used on the 1806 Half Cent. The 1840 cent did not go through the upsetting mill before it was sheared either. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955 Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. Report this Post to the Staff
Oldgrouchyguy Pillar of the Community United States 630 Posts	Posted 07/07/2025 7:55 pm jacrispies: Respectfully, you are totally incorrect on both your "observations"... Please: take a look at both The Davy Collection of Half Cent Errors (Finest in the land), and Dan Holmes' Large Cent Error Sale-both in Goldberg auctions. You will learn quite a bit Edited by Oldgrouchyguy 07/07/2025 8:00 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Oldgrouchyguy Pillar of the Community United States 630 Posts	Posted 07/07/2025 8:08 pm I'll address the "Denticle Issue": the strike is concentrated at that spot, and the denticles would show extraordinary detail (this info can be found in The Davy Collection) Edited by Oldgrouchyguy 07/07/2025 8:08 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Marv65 Bedrock of the Community United States 10515 Posts	Posted 07/07/2025 8:15 pm Is this "Davy Collection" pamphlet anything like the "Bert Harsche" error pamphlet? Report this Post to the Staff
Oldgrouchyguy Pillar of the Community United States 630 Posts	Posted 07/08/2025 08:13 am This link has both the Davy Collection of Half Cent Errors, and Dan Holmes' collection of Large Cent errors (both of which have nothing to do with "pamphlets"): http://images.goldbergauctions.com/...le=60&lang=1 Edited by Oldgrouchyguy 07/08/2025 08:17 am Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95618 Posts	Posted 07/08/2025 6:24 pm Sorry, OGG, but it looks like a vise job to me. the reverse is so flattened out the rim is now gone. and the coin is out of round Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
jacrispies Pillar of the Community United States 3848 Posts	Posted 07/09/2025 12:04 pm Quote: Respectfully, you are totally incorrect on both your "observations"... Please: take a look at both The Davy Collection of Half Cent Errors (Finest in the land), and Dan Holmes' Large Cent Error Sale-both in Goldberg auctions. To point out the obvious, you haven't provided any evidence to counter my claim. You basically said "you are wrong and read two entire catalogs." Why not share a couple specific counter arguments to educate us all? Perhaps a couple of lots that match your two coins as well? Unless both sides of a debate provide evidence of their claims, the conversation is dead. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955 Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. Report this Post to the Staff
Marv65 Bedrock of the Community United States 10515 Posts	Posted 07/09/2025 1:52 pm Quote: Perhaps a couple of lots that match your two coins as well? Well to give the OP some credit - I did find this example in the Davy catalog that is double struck on the obverse but really doesn't show much except flatness on the reverse........But I'm still sceptical. Report this Post to the Staff
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