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1943-S Lincoln Cent DDO 43/2

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I don't see the doubling on the eye or the lump under the 4. Not an expert in copper cents though, looking forward to what the penny* guys say.










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Not an expert in copper cents though


I knew what you meant- but this is a zinc plated steel cent, so not copper. You can claim some expertise in these.
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Here is a thread I made long ago in a galaxy far away right after this DDO had just been recognized as an overdate DDO. It has lots of photos and a discussion of the exact position of the mm and the signs of the doubling and some speculation from back in the day about scarcity and possible values. It may be a helpful resource here. (Or not. )
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Not seeing the doubling. And yes, I did look at the pictures throughly.
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The keys to finding and attributing 1943-S DDO-001 are:
Mint mark position
Clear doubling of the 9 and the 4
Determining which reverse die is paired with the doubled obverse

There are several mint mark positions that are very close to the correct one. The mint mark on DDO-001 is not tilted and has a very specific position relative to the 4.

On DDO-001, the doubling on the 9 is clearly visible in all die states, and is caused by this being a Class V doubling with a pivot just below the "L" of LIBERTY.

The DDO-001 doubling on the 4 is more complex. It comes because of the pivot, but also because all of the fours on 1940-1949 cents are different. It is clearly visible in all die states. In this second issue, it is similar to (1) the 1941 cents with the intact second "T" of TRUST rehubbed over a broken second "T," where it appears that a 1940 hub with the zero partially or completely ground off was used for the rehubbing and (2) the three 1949-S DDOs where the second hubbing was done with a 1948 hub, most likely with the 8 ground completely off.

Stages A and B of DDO-001 had the first reverse, with clear markers. Stages C and later had a second reverse, with just one weak marker.

That said, the coin in this thread is not DDO-001. The mint mark on this coin is tilted and too close to the 9, the coin does not have the doubling of DDO-001 on the 9 or 4, and the coin will have a different reverse than either DDO-001 reverse. The coins with deceptively close mint marks include two with possible minor doubling, but not the more significant doubling of DDO-001.

Keep hunting. Examples of DDO-001 are out there, and aren't rare, but they are hard to spot on rusted or damaged coins. They can be spotted fairly easily on reprocessed cents, though, and still have value.
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Not seeing it either. For Doubled Die verification matches have to be exact seeing the cents came off of the same die.
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Thank you FortCollins for that indepth analysis.
Your experience and expertise is always timely.
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