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I'm in the antique/junque business & have been working with a friend on her parents estate. Lot's of very interesting & authentic items from the late 1800s mixed in with junk. This pin was in one of the many jewelry boxes. Like the notes I've posted recently it's way outside my wheelhouse. I've got my doubts as to authenticity. Opinions are greatly appreciated. The total width of the piece is about 3-1/4"
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I wondered what "Pin with possible cobs" was - pretty neat piece but I have no idea if real or not. I'd get them tested for silver first.
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The coins have been hacked at to make them "fit" into the brooch, and almost certainly damaged by the attachment. So I suspect any numismatic vale the coins might have had, if genuine, has been eliminated and the item is only valuable as an intact piece of jewellery.

I think silver testing would be recommended.
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 Posted 08/14/2025  03:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes Central/South American jewelry pieces like this (moreso Central than South, though the Potosi/Lima pieces circulated in both places) use cast imitative replicas...

However, all of the pieces on this brooch/pin are definitively genuine. (3) Potosi 2R, a Lima 2R, a Potosi 1/2R, and a Lima 1/2R. 1695 to mid-1700s dates.

Long story short, I would leave as is.

If one tried to remove the mountings, even with pro jeweler tools/skill, you'd likely have very compromised pieces. They would still definitely have SOME numismatic value... but I think the sum would be no more than leaving the piece as-is. None of those pieces are amazingly rare on their own... AND it just seems wrong to do considering what you'd be left with. More desirable how it is.

Years ago I bought a wonderful necklace/bracelet combo of Kaiser-era German 1/2, 1 and 2 marks (I think an Austrian krone mixed in) for probably less than scrap. All mounted with simple loops at four edge points... everything intact and sturdy/latching. I think it would be easy enough for someone capable to do a decent job removing the mounts, but almost all are not worth it individually...

EXCEPT one very low mintage 1800s date Bavaria 2 Mark that would probably be $250ish even with removed mounts.

Gonna have to think about that one in time - it would probably be feasible to remove to one piece and resolder the neighboring coins together.

PS - I can't tell you just HOW much it's bothering me that they attached the one half real with the cross side facing opposite of how the other (5) pcs. were set.
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The coins have been hacked at to make them "fit" into the brooch


BTW, I don't believe that's the case. Those are very typical as-made edge cuts for those types... with the possible exception of the one edge of the Lima 2R. Looks like they simply used coins that just happened to jigsaw-puzzle together nicely.
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