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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I'll say MS-63.
Errers and Varietys.
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Is it just the pictures that makes it look polished? If it is messed with I'd say AU details/polished.  Edited by Marv65
08/27/2025 10:06 pm
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Reverse I think I see die scratches or clash marks ( our viewing right) but between the eagles neck and wing looks like wipe marks.. Obverse looks OK but those 2 big hits really draws your eyes to them 63 or Unc details |
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Just a question. The obverse photo shows scratches on the cheek that could look a bit like graffiti. I think I can make out the letter "F" in the middle of the cheek, but that could just be contact marks. Have the cheek and left obverse field been buffed to reduce or remove scratches or graffiti? Or is that just light reflection?
Everything else looks like an UNC coin to me. The cheek gouges are tough, but if the rest are just the usual contact marks, I could see this straight grading. I would be on the MS-62/MS-63 bubble, depending on what the obverse shows in hand. If the rest are just the small scratches like the reverse, MS-63. Some of those late date Morgans that survived the Pittman melt had tough life being tossed around like sacks of flour in the mint bags.
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08/28/2025 3:09 pm
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Thanks for your comments. From what I can see, they marks on the cheek are random bagmarks. In my opinion, this is clearly a dipped coin. I think it is near the borderline between market acceptable and cleaned. The luster is not booming but appears to be all there in the obverse. Luster is nicer in the reverse. As I rotate the coin and it cartwheels under the light, the luster is visible throughout the coin. To me, it looks like it falls slightly onto the market acceptable side.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Thanks! With that, I'm good with MS-63, straight grade.
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From the photo it's not market acceptable to me.
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From the photo it's not market acceptable to me. I agree. After all we are supposed to be grading from the pictures. |
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It's not unusual for opinions to differ. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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the hit on the nose and under the eye have displaced metal. a TPG may detail the coin for that. PCGS would most likely call this one Genuine Code 98. to these eyes it appears that there is a weak M in front of the F. the obv appears to be cleaned or rubbed in an attempt to make it less obvious. |
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