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1969-D Kennedy Half DDO, MD, Or Doubled Master Die?

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 Posted 09/15/2025  11:40 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MintedNotPrinted to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This one's got me all sorts of confused, and I'd really appreciate some help!

Found it yesterday in a densely packed antique store and was excited to see some separation, only to find that there are zero DDO listings on Variety Vista, and only a single listing on doubleddie to which this isn't really a match.

I did notice a doubledie listing for "1969-D 50¢ WMDO-001 Master Die Doubling", but there are no pictures.

Further searching dug up this quote from user atrox001 back in 2021:


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When James Wiles use to control the CONECA Master Listings on Variety Vista, he had listed a 69D MDO-001 (Master Die) with a description, "Medium spread on LI, with notched corners on I of LIBERTY and IN GOD, and light triple on earlier hub states of WE TRUST, 69 of date, hair under R and Y of LIBERTY". Now that CONECA took over the Master Listings from Wiles no one can view them. Your half may be Master Die Doubling.


What's up with this 1969-D, and the year in general?

1969-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO,-MD,-Or-Doubled-Master-Die?
1969-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO,-MD,-Or-Doubled-Master-Die?
1969-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO,-MD,-Or-Doubled-Master-Die?
1969-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO,-MD,-Or-Doubled-Master-Die?
1969-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO,-MD,-Or-Doubled-Master-Die?

The "WE" in We Trust can be seen with a 10x loupe better than the picture here due to lighting/finish.

I'll gladly do close-ups of specific areas or anything that helps if asked.

Thank you!
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It could very well be Master Die Doubling. The doubling and the description from the VV listing sounds like a match.
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Well it looks good for a doubled die (or is it Master die doubling?) anyway, on VV there is a space for a DDO-001 but is currently unassigned to a specific coin. Perhaps you could send it in to see if it will be attributed.
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@MintedNotPrinted, atrox001 is one of the experts on Kennedy Doubled Dies and I would certainly value his opinion.
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Wow, thank you everyone!

Perhaps this will be the first coin I send out
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Thanks jbuck, the mystery gets deeper, but I believe I'm getting closer.

I think this has a DDR, though I'd originally thought it was Machine Doubling / Die Deterioration, the designer's initials made me look closer all-around. Turns out it was mostly just RDV-003.

http://www.varietyvista.com/12%20Ke...arieties.htm

It looks very similar to VV DDR-006, but somewhat "mushier" to me, for lack of a proper term. Weak strike or additional worthless doubling perhaps? Interestingly, the VV header lists RDV-003 & ODV-002a (MDO). If this looks like a match to others, I may have my answer here.

http://www.varietyvista.com/12%20Ke...9DDDR006.htm

1969-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO,-MD,-Or-Doubled-Master-Die?
1969-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO,-MD,-Or-Doubled-Master-Die?
1969-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO,-MD,-Or-Doubled-Master-Die?
1969-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO,-MD,-Or-Doubled-Master-Die?
1969-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO,-MD,-Or-Doubled-Master-Die?
1969-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO,-MD,-Or-Doubled-Master-Die?
1969-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO,-MD,-Or-Doubled-Master-Die?
1969-D-Kennedy-Half-DDO,-MD,-Or-Doubled-Master-Die?

Fun coin to research regardless, very deep rabbit hole...

I have two other 1969-D's, one has the same ODV w/MDO & RDV, yet a different MM, the other has no MDO, but also the same RDV. No reverse doubling on either.

Thanks everyone.
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