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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
877 Posts |
NGC has much better pictures of this than what the seller posted. But it is still unattractive with all of the spotting and on the reverse the NGC pics show and ugly black line that is muted in these photos, probably why they didn't use NGC pics.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36558 Posts |
I'd be at MS-63 on this one.
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Bedrock of the Community
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18638 Posts |
the eye appeal on this one would not warrant this grade.
net MS63
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3848 Posts |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Strike and eye appeal should be at least average (if not necessarily excellent) at the MS-65 level. This piece gets low marks on both parameters. I presume a monster die clash generated that bulge below Liberty's chin. Is this a rare late die state example that warrants special grading treatment?
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: I presume a monster die clash generated that bulge below Liberty's chin. Is this a rare late die state example that warrants special grading treatment? The anomaly below the chin is progressive indirect design transfer, not directly a clash. The coin in hand is very lustrous and mark-free from a technical perspective. PCGS clearly liked the coin for Gem, but discounted to MS-64+ for eye appeal. NGC overlooked the eye appeal and gave it a bump to 65. Not grading malpractice, but the result of a vast and well-developed capitalist market. A great example of why the market prefers PCGS CAC coins more than anything else.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
11880 Posts |
Quote: Not grading malpractice, but the result of a vast and well-developed capitalist market. Sounds like the definition of malpractice. 
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The descriptive labels given grades are in themselves little more than marketing tools. An average consumer would expect that something called "good" could be better than something called "fine" and that anything called "very" or "extra" would be better than anything called "almost." If the labels were honest, grades 01-10 would be called "heavily circulated," 12-35 would be called "average circulated," 40-58 would be called "lightly circulated," and 60+ would still be called "uncirculated." No dealer would want to try to sell coins called "heavily circulated," so here we are. Similarly, "details" coins should honestly be called "damaged" coins. Unscrupulous marketers (read " ebay") love to palm off Good Details coins as "Good, with Details," deliberately misleading people who don't know the difference into thinking these are wonderful coins. Consider also the unscrupulous TV silver dollar sellers who advertise that "your coin will be uncirculated to fine," implying that F is better than UNC.
Edited by fortcollins 10/02/2025 4:55 pm
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