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1785 Roman Head Connecticut Copper - M.2-A?

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Just got this 1785 Connecticut Copper, seems to obviously match the M.2-A's. Breen mentions the "ETLIR" which this could be, or just wear though other letters seem intact at the bottom on reverse. But I see there are A.1, A.2, A.3, A.4 and can't really distinguish between them. Breen suggest the "ETLIR" is the most common of these so it's probably that, but doesn't match it to a numbered reverse. My Breen Encyclopedia is from 1988 so shouldn't expect much detail about these there. It's a tad larger than my other Connecticuts and is slightly larger than a Coronet Large Cent, but lighter. The diameter of 28.6mm matches Breen though. Thanks for taking a look and commenting. Has a reddish tone to it.
Weight: 8.47 grams - thinner and lighter than a large cent
Diameter: 28.6mm - larger than a large cent but in line with Breen

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 Posted 10/24/2025  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
3.4-F.2 Look how far away from the bust the last colon and C are on obverse 2.
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Wow @lcutler, it's amazing you can do that. Sure enough, that's it. Did you just know that off the top of head? Where can I find a resource to be able to look at images like at NGC Varieties and find the right matches for these Connecticuts? It's fascinating there are so many different ones, seems like thousands.
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There are a few varieties I can spot on sight, but the 1785's and 1786's can be tough. I use Randall P. Clark's book. "The Identification and Classification of Connecticut Coppers" It was pricy but worth every penny to me! I think there are currently a little over 350 varieties listed, I am up to just over 80.
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Yeah, tough book. Just searched the major sellers to see how pricey with no luck. I would think all this stuff would be online by now.
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The Whitman book on colonial and early American coins is pretty decent, the pictures are pretty small though.
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Thanks, I'll add that to my book list. Just ordered the Whitman RedBook Guide to Half Cents and Large Cents. I like the Draped Bust coppers too.
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