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I don't have this coin yet. I would like to know what you think about the grade, the seller listed EF. Thanks for all opinions!   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Coin looks AU53 or 55. The only concern is the black spots. The ones in the bust of Liberty look like they may have gone through the surface of the coin. The reverse spots look less severe. In my view, it is an AU coin that may be net graded to XF if the spots are into the metal and not just surface oxidation. Nice looking coin overall.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I can see how the seller arrived at EF as a grade, but based on the seller's photos, I think this coin is at least AU-50. (It may be better than that, but I will await the in-hand photos.) There is more luster in the protected areas than I would expect on an EF-45.
The weakness on the top of the obverse and bottom of the reverse looks more like either a tapered planchet or tilted die than circulation wear. The verticals on the lower shield are a little weak for AU, but again that looks more like strike than wear.
There are light vertical lines on the obverse and reverse. This may suggest an old cleaning or wiping. The scratches beneath the eagle's head and across the top of the eagle's right wing (our visual left) could be superficial, but are worth a closer look when the coin arrives. I agree with @numismatic student on the black spots.
The seller's photos aren't the clearest, but the bottom of the "2" and "9" make me wonder if this might be an 1829/7.
This one looks like a nice coin. For certain, it isn't overgraded. It has nice eye appeal.
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Pillar of the Community
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The seller's photos aren't the clearest, but the bottom of the "2" and "9" make me wonder if this might be an 1829/7. Yes, it is. That is why I snapped it up. PCGS lists five of the 1829/7s. The coin I bought may be the first that is listed 1829/7, and has no Overton #. The PCGS example and the coin I purchased both show a weak-looking 50C on the reverse. PCGS example of the 1829/7 - https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin...9-7-50c/6155I will definitely update when the coin arrives. Edited by HumblePie
10/25/2025 5:42 pm
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Yes, it is. That is why I snapped it up. I had a hunch you did. Another excellent cherry pick!  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm at AU.
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
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One concern, looking at this more closely, is that if the spots are just toning, you should be able to see the details of the design under the toning. In this particularly large spot, the horizontal lines on the shield aren't visible under the black spot.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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AU-50 and I think it will straight grade.
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Bedrock of the Community
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cant add anything other than it could be as high as AU53. if you feel inclined try an acetone soak to see if if lifts those spots.the downfall would be if it exposed some metal impingement or discoloration
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The technical grade may be AU, but I believe the eye appeal makes it EF.
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Pillar of the Community
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I just wanted to add the in-hand photos. Thank you.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm not into varieties but had some time so I looked at all like 21 varieties for the year but couldnt find a date that looked like that.  |
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My Two Cents in this is O-101a. Look at the fading arrow shafts on the reverse between the arrowheads and the talons. And see the matching barb of the left upper loop of the 8. And very nice pickup! |
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