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2022 P Quarter: Doubled Strike Doubling?

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*** Edited by Staff to Add Year and/or Mintmark and/or Denomination to Title. It's essential to have it in the title. ***


These photos are of a Maya Angelou Quarter

I know this has been attributed as Master Die Doubling, but it looks like DOUBLED Strike Doubling to me. (The primary width of the design is diminished from a normal 2).

(I added the guideline at the top of the Date)

WHAT AM I MISSING?


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So now I think I may understand your idea of whether or not there is a master hub still and not just a master die. If when the master die was being created from the master hub and this doubling occurred, then that could explain the extreme numbers of this anomaly. Why could this not occur in this way as Machine Doubling, from the master hub to the master die? I know it should not, should have been caught but still possible, I suppose. Am I on the right track in your thinking, Pete or have I just muddled the waters a bit more?

If this a possibility, then would this be call "master Machine Doubling" instead?
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So now I think I may understand your idea of whether or not there is a master hub still and not just a master die. If when the master die was being created from the master hub and this doubling occurred, then that could explain the extreme numbers of this anomaly. Why could this not occur in this way as Machine Doubling, from the master hub to the master die? I know it should not, should have been caught but still possible, I suppose. Am I on the right track in your thinking, Pete or have I just muddled the waters a bit more?

If this a possibility, then would this be call "master Machine Doubling" instead?


Interesting idea! While I have not heard of a single example of this in any time period, I am not ready to toss the possibility!

I gather that you are seeing strike/machine doubling in this example, rather than the same appearance as a doubled die?
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I gather that you are seeing strike/machine doubling in this example, rather than the same appearance as a doubled die?
It favors Machine Doubling but some known examples of doubled dies favor it too, at least to me, especially in clad coins. If many of the quarter and dime examples were not cataloged as doubled dies, I would write them off as Machine Doubling. Here is an example of a proof dime I found in a large batch I bought a few years ago that is a DDO / DDR example and would have thought it to be Machine Doubling if not for the listing.

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Understand

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The OP's coin is a multiple Strike Doubling in one direction.
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So did you read everything, Chase? The pic is from a listed doubled master.

LINK https://doubleddie.com/2680879.html
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Chase, I apologize, not sure where Pete got this pic, not from the listing, You may be correct....
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I agree with Chase and this would mean it is mis attributed. It is a doubled working hub (at best).
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The photo is my coin, but if the MDD attribution is correct, ALL examples would have MDD. I agree that this appears to be Strike Doubling (tripling?) instead and therefore the MDD attribution cannot be correct.

Doubled Working Hubs have the appearance of Strike Doubling.
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All good, Pete. I usually backcheck things and did not this time, just assumed this was from a listing. You know what they say about assuming. And here I am.
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