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Very nice find, Marve65!   Now the hard part is trying to match it to a known DDR listing.  Errers and Varietys.
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Quote: Now the hard part is trying to match it to a known DDR listing. Yeah - I'm saving that part for tomorrow......  Edited by Marv65
11/24/2025 01:23 am
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Elongated dots? Heck, elongated everything! Nice DDR Marve! |
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What are you seeing 2 of ? Does the word doubled die have a different definition in the world of coins. What part of this coin has 2 completely separate devise. At very best I may see a fat device. Is that what numismatics call a Doubled die?
Edited by jasper62
11/24/2025 07:03 am
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Definite DDR. Both stops are clearly elongated. I see some markers on your coin that may be a good lead. I think I can see the WSW-ENE scratches through the "O" of ONE. The "E" of ONE seems to have a short diagonal NW-SE scratch across its SW corner and a light NW-SE scratch within its lower interior half. There is also a scratch within E*P that appears to run from the center bar of the "E" through the stop to the "P." I also see what could be SW-NE scratches through the "19" of the date. The scratch from the "Y" of LIBERTY may also be there. The concentric scratches all around the obverse aren't as strong a marker as it may seem, since there are at least two other die pairs with similar concentric scratches. The pattern of scratches between "W" and "E" of WE, however, are unique to this variety, so that's where I would focus. All of those could be diagnostics for DDR-001 / 1-DR-002 / WDDR-003. At least it's a starting point. Nice find! |
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Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
dou·ble
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verb
past tense: doubled; past participle: doubled
1.
become twice as much or as many.
"profits doubled in one year"
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multiply by two
increase twofold
enlarge
magnify
repeat
make twice as much or as many of (something).
"Clare doubled her income overnight"
archaic
amount to twice as much as.
"thy fifty yet doth double five and twenty"
Military
(of a member of the armed forces) move at twice the usual speed; run.
"I doubled across the deck to join the others"
Baseball
(of a batter) get a two-base hit.
"Strawberry doubled with two outs"
Bridge
make a call increasing the value of the penalty points to be scored on an opponent's bid if it wins the auction and is not fulfilled.
"it may be right for East to double"
2.
fold or bend (paper, cloth, or other material) over on itself.
"the muslin is doubled and then laid in a sieve over the bowl"
This definition says nothing about being elongated or fat but specifically details 2 of a kind
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Very nice! |
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jasper62, I believe Marve65, and others, including myself, are very happy with Marve65 "DD" find.... Could be you probably don't see the "DD" because of the condition of this cent, I could understand that..
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Nice DDR find. Quote:
specifically details 2 of a kind Yes the term doubled die is a term that expresses how a design was visibly pressed into a die twice. The die itself is not doubled but the design on the die is doubled. There are two sets of images stacked on top of each other present on the die. When the two images are doubled in a way that they are not aligned with each other, it creates a visual fatness or spread that we can see. We call it a doubled die because the design was doubled onto the die |
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Really cool DDR, those letters and dots are super thick. I would hazard a guess at DDR-001, just because the other listings don't have that extreme distortion on the E. |
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This definition says nothing about being elongated or fat but specifically details 2 of a kind @jasper: All four doubled die reverses being discussed here are Class 6 Distended Hub Doubled Dies. Class VI doubled dies tend to produce blocky thickness and distortion on the design elements, rather than split serifs caused by misaligned doubled dies like Offset and Pivot multiple hubbing doubled dies. CONECA has a very good primer on the classes of doubled dies: https://conecaonline.org/the-9-clas...oubled-dies/ |
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What are you seeing 2 of ? Does the word doubled die have a different definition in the world of coins. What part of this coin has 2 completely separate devise. At very best I may see a fat device. Is that what numismatics call a Doubled die? I venture a guess you don't collect DDR newer dated nickels! |
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Thanks for the replies everybody!
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Both stops are clearly elongated. Quote:
tend to produce blocky thickness and distortion on the design elements, So the designs and devices technically dont have be doubled in order to call it a double die. That's not confusing at all..No wonder people dont stay in the hobby very long Edited by jasper62
11/25/2025 06:04 am
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