1941 P Lincoln 1c Broken T

Short answer: yes, it is a DDO, and may or may not be listed.

There are dozens of rehubbed second "T" 1941 cents. Not all of them are currently listed, but there are reserved Wexler listings that are currently being updated.

I created an eight-page "cheat sheet" with all of the second "T"s in TRUST from the listed coins and dozens more that I have found. I have a coffee can filled over halfway with currently unlisted rehubbed "T" 1941 cents. These may actually be listed, but don't have the listings uploaded again.

The Wexler site is revising listings for some of them, so there may be a match when those are uploaded. WDDO-006 to WDDO-018 and WDDO-021 and WDDO-022 currently don't have descriptions, photos, or markers posted. Many of the doubled second "T" coins also have a slightly doubled "4" in the date. Many also have doubled eyelids and some of them a rehubbed first "T" in TRUST.

Based on my "cheat sheet," the "geologist's pick" rehubbed T coins that are listed include:
FS-103, DDO-005, 1-DO-006, WDDO-005
DDO-014, 1-DO-021
DDO-015
DDO-017
DDO-027
1-DO-013
1-DO-019
1-DO-029
1-DO-044

There is a ridiculously deceptive unlisted DDO that is very close to FS-103/DDO-005/1-DO-006/WDDO-005, except the shift is straight west, rather than WSW, and the doubling on the "9" is more subtle. It also has a similar second "T."

If you can't make a match with those, for now hang on to the coin and wait until the Wexler site is updated.

Great information - I would have missed that one!

Nice find.

Thanks for the comments and for the info here fortcollins. I'll throw it in a 2x2 for later comparisons.

Thanks uruman!

Fortcollins, this may have relevance to may 1960P posts. https://goccf.com/t/484565

I believe some working hub doubling was mostly abraded but shows on my examples.

Do you have photos or links to photos of the supposed 1940/1941 examples?

Here is a set of photos of Die Pair #3 that shows a possible use of a 1940 hub for the second 1941 hubbing. There are four die pair with some suggestion of a zero hubbed over the second "1" in 1941. All four die pair have obverse dies that were polished heavily. Purely conjecture here, but the die polishing is shallower than hubbings, and die wear would tend to expose what was covered by the polishing. I'm still hunting the photos of the other die pairs. I'll post those in separate threads when I finish the 1941 cents. I'm on the prowl for better (and later die state) examples of a couple of those pairings. It seems significant that these appear identically on multiple coins, appear in later die states as the die polishing wears, and are of the right size, shape, and orientation as the last digit on a 1940 cent.

This particular die pair shows three, and possibly four, hubbings. The first was a normal first hubbing, but with a broken second "T" in TRUST. The second or third hubbing appears to be directly west of the first hubbing, and is most visible on the second "T" as a light "T" just left of the primary "T." The other of those hubbings isn't for certain. On some of the coins from this die pair, what may be a light hubbing appears to be visible just SE of the primary hubbing. The final hubbing was the intentional DDO, using an intact "T" to rehub over the broken "T." Early die state coins from this and the other die pair are among the most heavily abraded dies I have seen in any modern coin series. The aggressive polishing covered the entire surface of the obverse dies, even reaching some of the deepest parts of the design on the die.

My conjecture here is that the intact "T" was a 1940 hub with the final digit ground down. This is known to be the process used in 1949, with a 1948 hub, for the 1949-S DDOs. I believe that 1941 may be similar, and if so, it could be a reason the Mint did that in 1949. The trailing zero (if that is what it is) is very light on all four die pair. If the second "T" was broken on available 1941 hubs, the only possible earlier date that could have been used is 1940.

On this coin, like many (most? all?) with the rehubbed second "T" in TRUST, there is doubling on the "4" in 1941.

Here are the whole obverse and reverse, date detail, and second "T" in TRUST detail on the third die pair. The inside curve of a possible zero is most clear to the right of the second "1" in the date. The thing closest to the second "1" appears to be a die gouge. What I am seeing is the second object east of the second "1," between the die gouge and the polishing. Note that this hubbing - if that's what it is - isn't oriented correctly, and appears to correspond to what may be a light first "1" and "9" hubbed just NW of the primary "1" and "9." That also would appear to align with a possible second or third hubbing visible left of the "T" in TRUST.

Again, this is offered as a possibility that needs a lot more study.