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Jefferson Nickels: 1950-D Vs. 2009-P

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Which has the lower mintage and which has the best potential for value?
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I think a lower mintage always gives a coin an advantage for potential value. My pick would be the 2009-P, if it proves to be a low mintage coin.
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Gotta be the 2009 Nickel. I still haven't seen one in a roll or otherwise. When I do, get out of the way! nlp
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 Posted 07/09/2009  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ultvikefan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
keep in mind that the minting of 2009 nickels and dimes has already been stopped, and I am unsure as to why.
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It is not really valid to compare a 2009P with a 1959D since the 59D had a mintage of 161 million which will dwarf the total mintage of 2009s. A more valid comparison would be with a 1955P which only had a mintage of 7.9 million(smaller than the 2009s) yet it is only worth $1.80 in MS60 and $8.75 in MS65(Numismedia) after almost 55 years. I would bet that the survival rate of a 2009P nickel 55 years from now will be higher than the current survival rate of a 1955P nickel simply because nickels circulated much more back then vs now.
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I meant 1950-D, not 1959-D. Sorry for the error.
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if it proves to be a low mintage coin.


c'mon Obama, fix the economy within this year so I can get my 2009s!
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They stopped minting both the nickels and dimes because they because of the economic slowdown. The same thing happened during the depression in the 30's... During a period of high unemployment, people turn in their stored change to the banks ... the banks have a surplus of change and do not order any from the Fed Banks... The Fed Banks don;t need any so the mint stops producing. I read in coin works that they may start producing again in the Fall to build up a "strategic reserve" in case the economy picks up again and there is a sudden increase in demand for coins... but 2009 is still likely to be one of the lowest mintage years in the last 50 years.

I also agree that many of these rolls will be hoarded and many millions of the coins will be preserved in BU condition therefore decreasing their rarity and value in the future.
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A very similar thing is happening now as did when the 1950 D nickel was produced. I don't know where it is mentioned, in a book or on the net, but the mintage of the 1950 D being very low was made known to the public at the time it was produced in 1950.
There was a lot of hoarding and demand for it, driving the price up. Speculation of holding UNC rolls danced in many a head. What happened was just what is happening to the 2009 P nickel as far as preservation of UNC coins goes.
Admit it, none of us are knowingly going to go spend a 2009 P nickel.
But with the internet, we get faster information on the market.
The 1950 D nickel had speculation and hoarding happen somewhat behind the scenes. Nobody really knew how many were being tucked away, but nobody was hardly spending them either.
The prices for a 1950 D soared, I think to well over $50.00 a coin at some point. Take into consideration that inflation makes that a whole lot more than fifty bucks today.
It stayed up high in value for quite a long time. The result was most were preserved in UNC.
After prices began to drop and the news was old, I think some of them started to get turned in for cash by those who didn't know what they had. Kids, kids who stole them from Dad, kids who inherited them from Dad, and just plain boo boos by people had many trickle into circulation.
Interest in the Jefferson was nearly nil so they continued to circulate without notice. This is why we see many UNCs and the rest are in the same condition as a lot of other 1950's & 1960's nickels.
For a couple decades the 1950 D in UNC remained at a value of 8 to 10 bucks circulated or not, there was little difference.

Now we have the Internet, within a few months we have seen what taken the 1950 D years to do price wise is already happened for the 2009 P nickel. As of today, you can get one for under $5.00 where they opened up selling for close to $80.00 when first discovered in original bank rolls just about a couple months ago.

There are far more 2009 P nickels that will be preserved in UNC than the 1950 D was saved in.
The same thing will most likely repeat itself for the 2009 D. I expect the same will happen next year and maybe the following as well.

There just isn't 25,000,000 Jefferson nickel collectors out there. This is a new series too.
The demand will wane, the prices will drop.

Now MS69 and MS70 2009 nickels will demand some decent premium, but I don't think there is any investor potential in this coin. I'd put my money on the highest mint state 1950 D PCGS NGC and ANAC graded 1950 D nickels any day.
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wd1040 .... I don't have one yet, but they will come up eventually and you might have to pay $3. or $4. for one but hopefully it will be at a coin show where you can pick which one you like or on the Internet where it is not a stock photo.
I'm waiting, patiently for the P and D that I want to continue my collection.
When I find a good source, I'll let everyone know. ( after I get mine )
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I think we'll just have to resort to roll hunting... there's not many full rolls with the same date... and especially not here.
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I just received my 2008 PDS Nickels in the mail today.
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