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I fell in love the moment I saw her, but like the sad tale of many a male heart, had to let her go when I could not afford her....

Gothic Crown Obverse

Gothic Crown Reverse

*** Incase anyone gets the wrong idea...I do not own this coin. Just pinch it off the net to show members ****
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 Posted 04/19/2006  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Abyss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ooo,very nice.Excuse my ignorance,is it really expensive ?
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She is beautiful Lim....and the coin ain't bad either.

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quote:
Originally posted by Abyss
Excuse my ignorance,is it really expensive ?

Yes. The "gothic crown" is considered one of the key British silver coins. 1847 mintage was only 8,000, only made in proof. According to Krause, worth around US$2,500, though "impaired proofs" that got into circulation can go for as as little as $500. An "error coin" with the wrong date on the rim is listed at $9,000. It was restruck in 1853, mintage not specified in Krause but CV is $7,000 to $8,000.

Not to be confused with the "gothic florin", a similar design (on a smaller coin) issued 1851-1887.

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quote:
Originally posted by Abyss

Ooo,very nice.Excuse my ignorance,is it really expensive ?



To me it is. This one had an opening bid of 2,000GBP....

Anyone knows what the history is behind the portrait used for the Gothic Crowns & Florins .This question was asked in the Florin's thread but have still remain unanswered.
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To me it is. This one had an opening bid of 2,000GBP....



2,000 GBP= 4,000 cdn dollars......let's move on
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I'll bet it was still hard to let her go, even with the cost. She's beautiful! [:p]
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I'll bet it was still hard to let her go, even with the cost. She's beautiful! [:p]



So true MoM...true love will prevail.....one day
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Anyone knows what the history is behind the portrait used for the Gothic Crowns & Florins .This question was asked in the Florin's thread but have still remain unanswered.

The obverse was designed by William Wyon, one of the prodigious Wyon dynasty of engravers and medallists in Britain. The reverse design is attributed to William Dyce. Linecar's book "British Coin Designs and Designers" doesn't give any further details about this specific portrait, but does state in regard to the Penny of 1860 that "the queen herself took a personal interest in the design for the new minor coinage and gave several sittings" for her portrait.
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Thanks for the info sap.....

The design had me wondering after what member habiru001 posted in the Florin's thread.

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This design is fascinating- It is my understanding that this design was done specifically for the Scots? Anyone else have info on that tid bit? Dewey

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quote:
Originally posted by Sap

quote:
Originally posted by lim118
Anyone knows what the history is behind the portrait used for the Gothic Crowns & Florins .This question was asked in the Florin's thread but have still remain unanswered.

The obverse was designed by William Wyon, one of the prodigious Wyon dynasty of engravers and medallists in Britain. The reverse design is attributed to William Dyce. Linecar's book "British Coin Designs and Designers" doesn't give any further details about this specific portrait, but does state in regard to the Penny of 1860 that "the queen herself took a personal interest in the design for the new minor coinage and gave several sittings" for her portrait.



Victoria was delighted with the portrait. It was also the first time a monarch had been depicted wearing a crown in Britain since 1662.

On a side note it was one of the Wyon's that taught George T. Morgan the art engraving. Whether it was William Wyon or his son though I forget, I happen to think it might have been his son though, who designed the bun head pennies, which is another very nice portrait of the Queen.

Gothic--Crown



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I have the florin and it is a beautiful coin but oh how I dream of a CROWN!!!
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quote:
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I have the florin and it is a beautiful coin but oh how I dream of a CROWN!!!



That makes two of us....[:p]
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 Posted 04/23/2006  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add humpybong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

At the cost of it, would be better calling it a fantasy rather than a dream.

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You know I had the chance to buy one of those Gothic Crowns (with a slight edge knock) it was EF condition, quite nice as it goes. However, at the same time a medieval gold coin turned up and I went for that instead.

So I've been fortunate enough to have a near brush with one, I did spend a good half hour in a coinshop admiring another one that was way out of my price range once.

However, my coin funds have all but dried up and it looks like I turned down the only chance I ever had of getting one (for the forseeable future), although to tell the truth I made the right decision with the medieval I think.

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Of course you did Simon.

I would have made the same decision.
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