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Magician's Coin Question

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 Posted 07/10/2009  08:42 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add deadmunny to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was asked this question regarding the fake Kennedy's so I thought I'd ask it here.

A fake is made up of two coins. Why does the machinist go to the trouble of hollowing out the second coin when he can simply shave the edge and slip a solid disk into the first coin?

Why do all that extra work just to slip a Mexican Peso inside the "can"?
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 Posted 07/10/2009  3:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin is hollowed out so that the seam isn't on the edge of the coin where it would be obvious. If done correctly, and with the right coin, the seam can be very well hidden by the rim.

Originally I thought that all two sided coins were fake. Then, while surfing the web, I came across this:

http://www.coinfacts.com/error_coin...r_dollar.htm
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 Posted 07/10/2009  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know if there is a magic shop in your area but it would pay to go to one if you can find one. There are many, many tricks that involve coins. The shop by me has probably almost a hundred different tricks with coins and/or currency.
The one you sort of discussed may be the one with the Kennedy half hollowed out to hold the Mexican coin. Not sure how they make this one but one half of the Half is a hair larger than the other one. When the two halves are pressed together, they appear as one solid coin and you need a special plastic thing to separate them again. Done by placing the coin in this thing, slamming it down and the parts separate. You show people the one side of the Half with the Mexican coin on the other side but you do it by flipping it over so they think there are two coins there. You then flip that one side over and push together and the Mexican coin now vanishes. I purchased that exact one.
Some use this same one to make other coins vanish since it is hollow.
Like I said it is fun to visit one of those shops for coins. I really like the collection of two headed or two tailed coins there.
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 Posted 07/10/2009  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OH, I forgot. You asked why go through all that trouble to make that thing. Well the one I purchased was $25 for one thing and some magicians make a lot of money with tricks like that.
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carl,

You have provided an answer for the side that is Mexican-U.S. hybrid, so you can flip it, etc. If that is the ultimate goal, then why make the other U.S. side which encases it?

Some fakes also have two embedded coins. A dime inside a quarter inside the half. Again why do that since its so hard to open and display. Its just like the question, "Why climb Mt. Everest?". The climber said, "Because its there". I guess some people have a lot of time.
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 Posted 07/15/2009  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your missing the point. Companies make them because magicians need them to do their tricks. Just as the two headed or two tailed coins that are fun to flip for something with. I used to flip for coffee at work with a two headed Nickel but someone got suspicious and said flip with quarters only.
The Mexican/Kennedy coin is used to show people you have two different coins when acutally you only have one.
I really like the Steel cent that is only one sided and hollowed out. You place a Dime on your hand, place that Cent on top of it, pass over it with a ring on your finger with a magnet in it, and presto, where there was a cent, there is now a dime.
As I said those are all made since there are people that make a living using them. Or they are just fun at parties.
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