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Help! Unsealed, Original Bank Bag Of Unc 1955 S Pennies

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 Posted 07/21/2009  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say don't open the bag. How many unopened bags like this are there?
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 Posted 07/21/2009  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yotie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i suggest you keep them for your self the longer you do the more they will be worth
you have no money tied up in them and if you keep the paperwork you may have an heirloom that will always increase in value
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 Posted 07/21/2009  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collect4fun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will add my opinion to the mix. I say keep them in the sealed bag, the more original the item, the more it will bring. Ever watch Antiques Roadshow? Anytime an item is in it's original condition, original box, etc. it is worth more.

My suggestion is, search ebay for concluded auction prices per roll. Then determine a reserve price for your quantity plus a premium for the original sealed bag. With all your pic's of the seal, cashiers receipt and burlap bag run the auction and if it does not sell, wait 2 weeks and try again. If your friend is hard pressed for the cash, start selling by the roll.
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 Posted 07/21/2009  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris12018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bagged & tagged will bring your best price. Get your 50 posts in and you can sell them here without any listing or final sale fees. to CCF.
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 Posted 07/21/2009  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add timer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would leave them bagged and tagged. Right now it's one of a kind. You should be able to find an investor that is willing to pay a premium for that. If you sell them one at a time on ebay you will have 200 different listing fees, final value fees, shipping fees...
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 Posted 07/21/2009  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also agree that there is a chance selling the bag unopened will bring a large premium,IMHO, not as much as by the roll. HOW much do the "do not open the baggers" think the "bag", sold as is will bring in?PS: Also another thought,not opening the bag, who is to say for sure that they are ALL 1955-S coins?
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 Posted 07/21/2009  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW! One heck of a situation you have there! There's a LOT of options!

First off, the CDN (Coin Dealer News) ask value of these is $24/roll and $22 bid. However, since these are OBW (Original Bank Wrapped), the value is higher. I would estimate the value is about $28-30 per roll retail.

Now, any collector looking to buy these would have the intent of reselling them, so I seriously doubt you'll realize that much per roll if you sell them in the bulk bag. A reseller would be looking to pay $18-20 per roll so they can make a profit reselling them.

Now, an important question: How fast does he need to sell them?

The highest amount they could bring would be realized by opening the bag and selling them individually using the pictures and documentation you have. The cost in fees if you choose ebay would easily be off-set by the extra profit. However, this will take a lot of time, trouble and expense.

Selling them as they are in bulk, at whole sale, will bring a quick and painless sale, but at less gain.

Right now, as a quick and easy estimation, I would take the bag to a couple of local dealers and see what they would offer you. IT NEVER HURTS TO ASK. I would expect the offers to be about $18/roll x 200 = $3600. Certainly not enough to pay for college, but I don't think you'll get near that much no matter how you decide to sell them. Even at $28/roll, you'd only get $5600.

It all comes down to how much time and effort is going to put into the sale of these.
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 Posted 07/21/2009  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 00jules to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! That is a lot to digest, but I am getting the hang of it...slowly but surely. You all are awesome!

We are definitely leaning toward selling the bag unopened. The owner firmly believes the documentation and what her father has told her...that these are all 1955 S BUs (I'm getting the lingo!) in mint condition, never opened that he purchased for the sole purpose of being a future investment.

So...next question is how to auction them. I would love to get my 50 posts in and handle it here in the forum...but I doubt I know enough to sustain 50 posts! lol

I'm relatively adept at selling on ebay (that is why my friend came to me) but never with coins...which is why I came here! :)

As a side note, I am really getting personally interested in coins and currency, the more research I do! I love learning new stuff...so thanks for all your help so far!!
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did I mention I'm up for more input, suggestions, etc? :)
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 Posted 07/21/2009  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another option would be to consign the bag to Bobby and Susan here at CC. They are well respected sellers of consigned coins. They have experience selling this very thing. Even though you have to pay a consignment fee, they will likely fetch the most money as opposed to selling it yourself since they are very well known coin sellers. You also have the advantage of a "no hassle" sale....ship it to them and let them do the work.

EDIT: Click on the COIN CONSIGNMENT link on the left toolbar. With something like this, you may also be able to negotiate a lower consignment fee.
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Just another thought, Are there any coin shows in your area, if so take some awesome pictures and bring them and show everyone, WHO KNOWS. Also call ALL your local coin shops and see what they offer, and this forum has some very trusted people SUSAN AND BOBBY, I have not dealt with them, however I have seen and heard testimonials praising their work and ethics. Also post another 43 posts quickly and I for one would gladly purchase some of those beauties.......PS: Do you have to have 50 posts to have things consigned?
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Just an odd ball thought at 5 am, How about something like Bowers and Marena or Stacks or David Lawrence Auction house. Some place that could
advertise the sale and create interest. Something like that does not come along very often unopened. and would create quite a buzz in the community. Just my half awake opinion

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 Posted 07/22/2009  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 00jules to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good morning all!

I don't know if there are any coin shows in the area...I guess I need to find out. We are certain now that we will be selling the bag unopened, so there is that. I'm sure that whoever DOES buy it will likely open it and sell the rolls, but my friend does not want to be the one who does it. :)

So, I like the idea of an auction house advertising it and creating a buzz, though I'm not familiar with the ones Stew mentioned. More research! Also, the idea of consigning it to Susan and Bobby seems like a good plan too...

Of course, I would love to be able to save her the fees if I can...i will talk to her at length today.

So...who wants to give me an idea of a good reserve estimate for this bag might be? Just so I don't screw it up if I do find a local dealer?

Thanks!
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 Posted 07/22/2009  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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So...who wants to give me an idea of a good reserve estimate for this bag might be? Just so I don't screw it up if I do find a local dealer?


I thought I did that? LOL

EDIT - I just reread, it's 100 rolls total, right? I was thinking it was 200 rolls. For 100 rolls:

low = $1800 ($18 per roll)
high = $3000 ($30 per roll)

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 Posted 07/22/2009  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have consigned more than a few thousand dollars in coins through Bobby and Susan here on CCF and they are 100% trustworthy and also presented my product in a very professional way.
They get my absolute HIGHEST recommendations.

Yeah I thought there were two bags as well. I guess one bag already got opened and rolled up, the other left in the bag.
Well then, this is even more the reason to sell both ways. By the roll and by the bag once.
Since this was in the plastic all this time. I say keep it and keep it safe as it is from environmental damage.

If it happens to be all different dates when it gets opened someday, that would not be a bad thing at all. You know there are some great coins in there. Probably even an Indian Head cent or who knows what? That would be truly an unsearched bag!
Possibly even better than a 1955 S solid bag.
Because in 1955 many of the coins would be considered more common in a time capsule like that. I wouldn't mind having your problem. LOL!
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She has 100 rolls of 1955 S pennies. They were purchased by her father in 1955 directly from the bank after arriving from the SF mint.

The original burlap bag has not been opened. The bag is still sealed and tagged with the original red identification tag.


Maybe this can be clarified?
I read it as if there is or was two. One rolled, one bag still intact.
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07/22/2009 1:35 pm
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