Some Things That Need Id'ing (Id: Various, Inlcuding "cornish Penny" And Counterfeit/Fake Guinea Spade Token)

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copper nickel daddy Pillar of the Community United States 2224 Posts	Posted 07/27/2009 8:21 pm A few assorted things that I have been meaning to photograph and put on here to have identified by you knowledgeable folks out there! #1. 25mm, think it's made of brass. #2. Not much to work with here! Made of copper, 28.5mm. Looks to have a Brittania-type seated figure on the reverse. 3. BIG coin/token (34mm). Copper; A trade token, perhaps? But from where? 4. Very little to work with here! Reverse (or obverse?) is worn smooth. Photo #1 shows a few letters, and that is it. 27.5mm, copper. #5. Lot to work with here; I just have no idea. 26.5mm, probably copper with something mixed in (a little more chocolate brown than the above three pieces) [deleted old photobucket links] I'll sit back and read your expert replies. Thanks! Report this Post to the Staff

nohope587 Pillar of the Community United States 5953 Posts	Posted 07/27/2009 8:38 pm #1 UK Farthing Report this Post to the Staff
snowman Pillar of the Community United States 1840 Posts	Posted 07/27/2009 8:44 pm #5 is a 2 Liards from the Austrian Netherlands KM 29. Worth $2.50 VG and $5 F. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16837 Posts	Posted 07/27/2009 8:57 pm #1: an imitation of a British gold coin known as a "spade" guinea. Such imitations are commonly found with garbled reverse inscriptions and were used as card game counters. #2: Can't see enough to be sure. #3: I'm thinking Irish; not sure why. #4: Can't see enough of this one either. #5: what Snowman said. "M.T." at the beginning of the obverse legend is short for Maria Theresa, the same lady on the thalers known by that name. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
copper nickel daddy Pillar of the Community United States 2224 Posts	Posted 07/27/2009 9:26 pm Thanks guys! I had a feeling a few of these were too far gone to figure out. Report this Post to the Staff
snowman Pillar of the Community United States 1840 Posts	Posted 07/28/2009 4:21 pm Quote: I'm thinking Irish; not sure why. I think the fish on the token is a sturgeon. My first inclination was Canada. Report this Post to the Staff
Peter THOMAS Pillar of the Community Australia 2830 Posts	Posted 07/28/2009 6:38 pm G'day, No.1 - I agree with Sap. No.3 - it's a token. There were many produced in 1811; many with very local themes. I think yours is called a "Cornish penny", and it depicts the two major industries of Cornwall: tin-mining; and fishing. Your token has been re-struck for tourists. Here is an example that I found on ebay: 140334902293. The real thing comes up regularly. From the 1840s, there was a continuous exodus of Cornish tin-miners to Arizona and to South Australia, to mine copper in hard-rock. Apparently there were similarities. There is a memorial to the Cornish miners at Kapunda in South Oz. My ancestors were part of that exodus in 1845. The move was successful. They migrated as a family. I wonder if one of the kids hung on to a copper such as yours for the journey ? Our coins teach us history, geography, art: even a humble penny can be a tangible link with so much. Peter in Oz Report this Post to the Staff
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Some Things That Need Id'ing (Id: Various, Inlcuding "Cornish Penny" And Fake Guinea Spade Token)