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8 Real Coin For $49.00

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I was reading the NG mag today at the Dr office and this hit my eye. I have never seen one before so I am not going to just out and buy one unseen. anyway they are from the GovMint.com. it said something about a shipwreck being pulled from the bottom of the big lake and all these coins being in it. anyway has anyone seen or heard of this and are they real. add said something about they sale normally for 250 and up
thanks all and I hope I have this in the correct spot
Gary
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 Posted 07/29/2009  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thats it.do you think it'd real and is it worth $49.00 plus shipping? I think shipping is like $6.00
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I really don't know much about them or value. I wonder what the grade would be since it's obviously a stock photo.
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the magazine said to use a code when you call of FSD127 but I looked it up om the site and it is the same price without the code so I am not sure what the code is
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The coins are from the shpwreck "El Cazador" and IMHO are not worth the price unless you really want a shipwreck coin from that wreck. Cazador coins tend to be very corroded and have a strange color to them. Once again in my opinion, they were not properly conserved after being found. If you want a nice 8 reale coin, you can buy a problem free VF grade coin for the same you would pay for this coin considering shipping costs. Find a reputable dealer (or go to a coin show)and try and look at various different examples so you can see what the different coins look like and get a feel for grade/price. Collecting "8s" can become an addiction but you will need to educate yourself, the field is full of both contemporary counterfeits and cheap Chinese fakes. There are great resources here on the forum always happy to share knowledge and information.
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now that's the info I was waiting for. I didn't jump in but did look and my interest was peeked but the wife had one ear in between two fingers just in case so I didn't get to push the button lol
thanks
Gary
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When you see ads where they want you to use a code when you order, it doesn't mean you get a better price, what it does is tell the seller which ads are getting people to call so they can track their marketing dollars. When I used to advertise for my business I used a different phone number for each publication so I could keep a record of which ads were generating calls.
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good to know
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I have seen one of these first hand, all dated 1783, and must agree that the $49.00 version is deeply corroded and would grade P -AG. They also have had a $79.00 option in slightly better shape. The hook on these coins are the "shipwreck" factor which really doesn't add value on poor quality. Once you have seen any of the Pillar or Bust 8 Reales in XF or better condition, you'll get hooked as I did a couple of years back. The history behind these gems goes far beyond the pirate treasure stories.
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the silver coins don't do as well under water as gold does, if it did we would have allot of shipwrecked coins that are in super high grades without problems but the salt water and algae (in fresh water) just can really do allot of damage to silver
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GovMint.com = stay away.
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Some little info on the Real coin. Suggest that you find
out the country of issue. The Real was utilized by many
countries as international purchase. The Real obverse
was mostly stamped with the merchant stamp (ensuring that
the silver content was real). Some call the merchant stamp
as damage, how ever, to find a non-stamped Real is a concern
to me as the high stakes of fakes. The more Merchant stamps
along with the circulated condition the less the cost.
All that said. I sell them at my coin shows in XF45 nice
luster with merchant stamps at $64.00. They are plentyfull
enough and a decent coin dealer should sell them, or get
them through there network for around $75.00
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