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Here's a circulated beauty IMO. Please note: pre 1921 Walkers have much weaker skirt lines than 1921 and after, so that should not be as strong a consideration on the earlier coins. P.S. The "60" on the reverse flip is a catalog number.   Edited by Stephen420
04/25/2006 2:26 pm
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Hi Stephen
I saw this post before I went to work,, I'm truely surprised to find no comments on it now when I got home !!
This IMO is one of those coins ,where the reverse has faired better than the obverse, the reverse has the detail to Make F-12, The obverse a bit weaker, but the sandal, hand and stars are pretty clear.
My guarded opinion F-12
My original thought was to net grade the coin based on the differences obverse to Reverse detail, at VG-10 ,,
Rick
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Originally posted by Susanlynn9
I'd call it VG10.
I can't agree.  I normally think grading my own coins is little more than an exercise in wishful thinking. However, after reading everyone's opinions, I went to look at photos in the NGC set registry of a lot of Walkers and found at least 2 VF20's graded by NGC that are comparably worn. One of them, pictured below, below shows very slightly more breast-line, but the reverse is worse than mine and my breastline - well, I mean Liberty's of course - is pretty nice and more defined than the picture shows. Also, I have an old reference book on Walkers (1983) by Swietek with comments on each date and mint mark. The book also contains drawings of a stock Walker in various states of wear. This coin would definitely fit into Swietek's VF category, for what it's worth. Since I'm not selling, I can call it whatever I want to, right? So I'm calling it VF.[:p] Maybe I'm deluded. I'll do some more snooping in light of your opinions, which I don't believe I have ever failed to defer to before now.    Edited by Stephen420
04/26/2006 2:54 pm
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Hi Stephen
The pic of the 21 has some visable skirt lines on the obverse and no rim bruise,,the breast line on the 21 pictured still shows some detail in the center, your 19 is flat through the center minute differences to be sure !!
But these are the things I looked at to come to the VG-10 I enhanced that with the reverse of your 19 which is a full F-15 to come to the guarded F-12.
are you going to submit the 1919 for grading ?
Rick
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Originally posted by Metalman
Hi Stephen...
are you going to submit the 1919 for grading ?
Rick
Rick
Not at this time. I actually have two sets of Walkers that I'm working on circ'd and MS. The circulated set is my treasure, and I'm a good way towards finished on that set. The other will take me the rest of my life, if I'm lucky. Thanks for your advise!  P.S. - The walker design was modified in 1921. Before that, no Walkers, even the best, have strong skirt lines. I've seen more walkers than any other coin and I've never seen a pre-1921 with anymore than a suggestion of skirt lines. Within that period, there is some variation, but as a rule (per Swietek), "weak" skirtlines (actually part of Weinman's original design) are not much factored into the grade, and in circulated specimens, not at all. Edited by Stephen420
04/26/2006 5:13 pm
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Rick: Sorry to keep on bickering,  but something you couldn't know is that the rims on the coin are undisturbed and I don't know why the picture came out that way. Probably the plastic on the holder in which the coin no longer resides. Peace, Stephen |
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Stephen, I'm still practicing on Walking Liberties, but I'd say F-12 based on the guide in Coin Prices magazine which uses Walkers as grade examples. Not the best nor most authoritative guide, but it'll do for a fast assessment.
Fred
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Now that I've read the others' comments, I'd still be inclined to go with F-12, maybe up to F-15. I don't have any slabbed Walkers with which to compare and images really don't do a coin justice. I'd rather lean on the side of a lower estimate based on an image, but if you wanna send my the Walker, I'll take a closer look at it. Nothing like a bird in the hand...  Fred |
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Originally posted by Morgan Fred
Now that I've read the others' comments, I'd still be inclined to go with F-12, maybe up to F-15. I don't have any slabbed Walkers with which to compare and images really don't do a coin justice. I'd rather lean on the side of a lower estimate based on an image, but if you wanna send my the Walker, I'll take a closer look at it. Nothing like a bird in the hand...
Fred
I'll leave it to you in my will, Fred. In the meantime, perhaps 20 is a bit much. We see through a glass, darkly. And I forgot my absolute bottom line grading rule: always grade at least two levels below what you think it is. |
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I'll leave it to you in my will, Fred.In the meantime, perhaps 20 is a bit much. We see through a glass, darkly. And I forgot my absolute bottom line grading rule: always grade at least two levels below what you think it is.
You'll probably outlive me anyway. Two too many wars. We sure grade the same way: whatever I think it is, I take off two grades for good measure. Edited by Morgan Fred
05/01/2006 11:04 am
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Originally posted by Morgan Fred
You'll probably outlive me anyway. Two too wars.
We sure grade the same way: whatever I think it is, I take off two grades for good measure.
I've not been in any wars. But I want you to know, you have my respect and gratitude. |
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I would call the 1919 VG also
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