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1975-Dime With Partial Clad Layer Missing-Error!

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I found this coin while going through my stash and also thought I would post this coin for any input and opinions as I believe now, as I did when purchased, this is a true error, missing a small portion of the finish. As far as I can tell, this clad dime has an outer layer of .750 copper/250 nickel, bonded to an inner core of pure copper.

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08/06/2009 10:34 pm
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 Posted 08/06/2009  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup! Again, it's a partial missing clad LAYER. It's not a finish of any kind.
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 Posted 08/06/2009  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin has a missing " clad layer " would you consider this an error, being it is missing a partial layer?

Also would you have any idea of the rarity/value, I do not see any literature on this type of error, could you point me in the possible right direction, Thanks, Mike...
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 Posted 08/07/2009  08:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Of course it's an error. Sometimes these can be more interesting than completely missing layers.

As for rarity and value, I have no idea. I'm just good at spotting errors and non errors. I'm not good at pricing them.
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Chuck, Any way you look at it YOU are good at what you do, Thanks for your time and input. I would also like to Thank-you for ALL you have helped me to learn,( your skin thickening class ), LOL, I too think it is very interesting,be well, Mike...
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As for rarity, it is definitely not common but certainly there are errors out there much rarer than this one. As for value, I got a full reverse clad error dime from a forum member a year or so ago for about $20 and I have also won a partial(3/4) split clad reverse quarter from my shops bid board for about the same price. I would say that $10 would be a minimal value for your dime.
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I appreciate ALL the input.
Chuck, I would like to address the statement you made in that " It's not a finish of any kind."
Could it not be said that while the planchet is made entirely, before the striking of the coin, the top ( nickel layer )"could be" called the finish layer?
Being it is the last layer in the production of the planchet.I understand Nomenclature is essential and very important in any field, but without being to technical, would'nt this statement about it missing the "finish" also be true......

Bio, In my opinion this is a very nice error and I would think the rarity of a "partial"(like Chuck stated) would command or be of more interest than a complete or half missing layered coin, all in all, not to common, either one....
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A finish would refer to something done to alter the planchet after it was punched from the metal stock, i.e. the plating of Zincolns could be referred to as a finish. Cladding is not added to a planchet, the blanks are punched from sheets of clad metal. The clad sheets were initially combined in a process called explosive welding but I believe that they are currently cold rolled.
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Bio, You are undoubtedly among some of the brightest stars in this family, IMO, Thanks again, Mike

PS: I think I am going to the union station kiosk on 8-13-09, do you think the crowd will be insane, in your opinion, also enjoy your trip to the old capital in Illinois......
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What Biokemist said, along with the fact that nobody in coins calls a clad layer a 'finish' - the statement is simply out of place.

I do disagree that the copper plating on zinc cents is a finish. It's there before the coins are struck, and is also NEVER refered to as a 'finish'.

'finish' is something you do to furniture to put the final shine on it. It doesn't fit in coins.
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Aha, so you would go a step further and say that a finish would only apply to something done to the coin after it was struck, makes sense. About the only coin I can think of that would meet that criteria would be the 5000 Sacagawea dollars presented to Glenna Goodacre as payment for her design, they had a post-strike burnishing done by the Mint.
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The word 'finish' could also apply to something that is done to the dies after they are otherwise completed. I have head 'matte finish' used on occasion, which refers to something done to the dies.
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I would assume then that terms like satin finish, mirror-like finish, "proof" finish would apply to the finish of the die.
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RockDude, I would think your assumption combined with the "planchet production" would be true.....
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