What About This Chinese Coin? 2 | Repro "Junk" Dollar

Same goes for this coin as the last....weigh it and use a magnet

Hey hey! Then it's real! A piece like this goes for around $30

It's a silver dollar, and same goes for the other one. This guy is Sun Yat Sen and the fat guy is Yuan Shikai. It was minted in 1932 in the Republic of China, and the other one is 1921, also in the Republic of China.

I disagree this is not a real coin but a copy. Overall appearance of the bust, and hair are not correct.

I'm was not referring to the weight, the coin could be 27 grams but still be a fake. In my opinion the overall appearance and detail of the engraving of this coin is wrong. If you refer to a closeup image of the coin listed in Krause you would be able to see the differences. As you know these coins are mass produced in China and sold as the real thing.

Simple, latman; lower value coins receive less scrutiny, and people tend to assume, like you, that no-one would bother faking them. Let's posit two hypothetical situations:

Scenario 1: you find USA 1804 dollars being sold for $2 each in the roadside marketplace in China. Anyone with even a shred of numismatic knowledge should know that 200 year old American silver dollars are worth much, much more than face value, even if they don't know that 1804 is the super-rare year. You're going to assume it's fake, and not buy it.

Scenario 2: same market, same price, only this time it's "junk" dollars like the one in the OP. You just might buy it, because it could be genuine, and you aren't going to lose much even if it turns out to be fake.

Result: Scenario 2 sells more coins.

For me, the giveaway of the fakeness of this particular coin is the sunrays; when they reappear on the left side of the ship's sails, they're supposed to line up exactly with the rays entering the sails on the right. These rays don't line up. And, as with the other Chinese dollar posted by morethanever, the toning appears to have been applied with a brush.

I have a copy of this coin but bought it as a fake. The detail I've posted is a close up of the left hand character on the reverse. This suggests to me that it was cast. Can anyone confirm? The edge of the right -hand character on the obverse has similar 'brush strokes'.

Thats the 1932 dollar with the birds and the sun rays. Worth more than $30 if real, couple of hundred dollars in better condition..




This is a hard to find coin...

I agree with echizento, the hair looks awful to be real.