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Sukardnam Valued Member United States 103 Posts	Posted 08/14/2009 10:53 am Hey guys, I just purchased a large assortment of what I thought to be your standard 1921 morgans so I could resell them in my shop. When I was going through the bag I found a few extra "shiny" coins and put them aside to look at later. I came across one that had an amazing mirror like quality to it. It has a few bumps and bruises when you look at it through a loupe but nothing uniformed enough to be considered cleaned in my opinion. So... Is this a DMPL? What exactly defines a coin to be a DMPL? What you guys grade this out at? If it is a DMPL does it have any rarity to it? Thanks in advance! Report this Post to the Staff

Jaobler Pillar of the Community United States 6385 Posts	Posted 08/14/2009 11:14 am The shiny quality of your coin could be from genuine prooflike surfaces, or it could be from polishing, abrasive cleaning, or even plating. The photos are too small to make any informed judgments. Can you post larger, more detailed images? I believe DMPL 1921 Morgans are very scarce and valuable in higher mint state grades. If your coin is legitimately PL or DMPL, and is mint state, you should be able to get a premium price for it. Report this Post to the Staff
Sukardnam Valued Member United States 103 Posts	Posted 08/14/2009 11:32 am Heres a few higher res pics on photobucket, and out of the capsule. Obv: http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums...IMG_1440.jpg Rev: http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums...IMG_1428.jpg Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 08/14/2009 12:19 pm The larger pics indicate a coin which has been highly polished. Note the hazier zone around the devices - that's a classic sign of a polished coin. DMPL status is defined by the reflectivity of the coin. In order to be considered DMPL, you should be able to read reflected newspaper type in the coin placed 8 inches away. They are, as Jaobler said, rather rare - out of thousands of 1921's sold by Heritage Auctions (the largest coin auction house), only 53 have been DMPL. Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 08/14/2009 2:22 pm I agree with Dave, it has been polished. Report this Post to the Staff
hippiebrian Valued Member United States 436 Posts	Posted 08/14/2009 8:09 pm Newbie observation: On the obverse, the face appears almost as shiny as the field, and this seemed to me to be a tip off that it's been polished. Am I right on this, anyone? Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 08/15/2009 01:21 am Quote: Am I right on this, anyone? To an extent. Prooflike/Deep Mirror Prooflike surfaces are not always accompanied by the frosted devices we tend to associate with them; that's a function of the condition of the hub from which the dies were made. An older hub can still produce Prooflike surfaces, as they're a function of die polishing in many cases, but the devices could be almost "shiny" on their own. I hesitate to pronounce polishing on a coin from just a photograph; there are too many variances in lighting technique to make such a diagnosis easy. However, in this case, the haze on the devices noted in the larger pics pretty much seal the diagnosis. Report this Post to the Staff
hippiebrian Valued Member United States 436 Posts	Posted 08/15/2009 02:24 am Thanks, one more thing to keep in mind... Report this Post to the Staff
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