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Old Sa Coins Worth Millions

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 Posted 08/15/2009  11:07 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rggoodie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
From AdelaideNow.com.au

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DAVID NANKERVIS

August 16, 2009 12:01am

A CENTURY ago these South Australian coins were worth a pound each. Now they're worth millions.


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Some of the South Australian coins worth up to $800,000

Six extremely rare 22 carat gold coins and ingots, minted in Adelaide 157 years ago, are now worth more than 800 times their weight in gold, having sold at a recent Sydney auction for a combined total of $1.66m.

They represent a crucial part of the fledgling state's history, being struck during the reign of Queen Victoria and before Australia became a nation.

And these factors make their metal value - about $300 - irrelevant to their allure and sale price.

Sold as part of coin dealer Monetarium's Quartermaster Collection auction, held in Sydney in June, an "excessively rare" 22ct gold 1852 one pound coin, minted in Adelaide, fetched a record $337,600.

Another in slightly less pristine condition sold for $221,550, while another SA pound minted in Melbourne in 1919 sold under the hammer for $485,300.

But the stars of the auction were two gold ingots bearing stamp marks by the South Australia Government Assay Office from 1852, which sold for about $800,000 each.

They were only just outshone by a King George sovereign from the Sydney mint, which fetched a staggering $844,000.

The money spent at the auction - more than $10 million on 344 items over three hours of bidding - proved premium quality collectables have not lost any lustre as a result of the global financial crisis, according to Adelaide coin expert and dealer Luciano Iapadre.

"The market has been going from strength to strength during the economic downturn, because investors don't have faith any more in mainstream investments such as shares and property," he said.

"Some of these items are extremely rare - the two Adelaide Assay ingots were the only ones I am aware of that have ever been for sale."

Bidders from around the world had been active at the auction. Mr Iapadre said extremely rare coins of outstanding quality were making "substantial" monetary gains in the long term. "We have an Adelaide pound for sale which 10 years ago you would have paid around $60,000 for, but you are now looking at around $250,000," he said.

Amassed by collector Tom Hadley over the course of 22 years, the Quartermaster collection was arguably the greatest collection of Australian gold coins ever sold.
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thanks for that.
quote: "... a King George sovereign from the Sydney mint, which fetched a staggering $844,000"
- I'm guessing that's a 1920, which Renniks' 22nd edition, 2007, gives the following values for:
VF $325k ... proof $750k
for a mintage stated to be "3-10 known".

I think a case could be made that the "Adelaide pounds" are ingots, rather than coins. That said, I have no doubt that they were tendered and accepted in their day. A few years earlier, so was rum ...

Peter in Darwin


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Wife showed me this article in today's (Adelaide) Sunday Mail, and seemed quite serious when she then asked if I had any in my collection. I just answered "No dear" and left it at that.

If only....

And Peter - agree with your interesting assumption Adelaide Pounds are more ingots than coins - despite actual appearance.

Cheers, Les
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'... I just answered "No dear" ...'
- why not 'I was thinking of getting a few, given that they're on the way up ...' ?
- or 'the more I spend on my collection, the more for you later ..."
Peter in Darwin
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nice coins with very nice price
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08/16/2009 07:12 am
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Interesting article posted a long while after the coins actually sold. I think the Adelaide pounds are coins. What makes you call them ingots?
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I think the Adelaide pounds are coins. What makes you call them ingots?


Mark, think your question is for Peter, but for my part I've sought clarification thru Greg McDonald publication titled AUSTRALIAN COINS AND BANKNOTES as follows:

THE ADELAIDE POUND

"By November 1852, mounting criticism resulted in the Bullion Act being amended to allow the striking of one, two and five pound issues as well as ten shilling gold pieces. The first, and only issue to be struck was the One Pound Coin although dies and re-strikes of the five pound pieces are known. However, even the striking of the One Pound Coin was not without its problems.

A local die maker by the name of Joshua Payne was given the go-ahead to cut the die even before the amendment to the act was finalised. The plan was to commence production immediately the bill had gone through. Payne however, had produced less than 50 of the pound coins when a severe die crack was discovered, thus causing further delays.

The crack occurred from the inner circle to the rim beside the downstroke of the "D" of "DWT" on the reverse side of the coin. A new die was quickly cut and about 25,000 of what was to be known as the Type II Adelaide Pound were struck. Both coins are considered to be very rare.

Despite the seemingly high mintage figure of the Type II, very few have survived. Soon after they began circulating it was discovered that their intrinsic value was nearly two shillings (actually 1/11d) more than face value.

What coins were saved from profiteers were eventuly melted by official decree when the British Government rescinded the Bullion Act."


Anyone looking to buy... MONETARIUM has a 'cracked die' variety selling for a nice even AU$250,000.00

cheers,
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08/16/2009 11:55 pm
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I saw this in the Australasian Coin and Banknote Magazine.
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