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1983 Near/Far Beads

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Is there any other diagnostics that aid in the determination of the "near, or far" beads, other than just plain huessing? Overlays excepted. I don't do them well enough to rely on the results, due to vision problems. I have no front pin-point. "holes in my Retinas. Any help would be very much appreciated
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I've never run across anything other than visual comparison, in which case it is fairly obvious.

The only other thing I would do is blow up a scan of the coins in question and just see what the difference in spacing from the rim is.
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Often any "near" or "far" beads is due to rim thickness, and this is usually easy to see especially when you have a wide rimmed and narrow rimmed coin next to each other.
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Thank you both for your replies. I normally would have no trouble, but about a year ago, I lost my forntal vision, and am "legally blind", meaning I can't deive anymore, etc. I normally used the Charletons Catalog for my diagnostics, but, that is too vague, under this confdition. I tried the
"DEI", and Regina" test, but nothing there. The same problem with the SBA "wide, and narrow rims. I went thru two tubes of the '83's, but could only find what seems to be large, and small beads! That doesn't make sense. looks like it will have to come down to overlays, and pray!
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I think that the only way to tell them apart is the distance between the beads and the rim.
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Maybe this pic. will help.Zoom in quite close and it still remains clear.If not I will try to post a better photo.

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this may not help much but it is the only image I have and only way I know of to tell the difference.

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Here's another picture that may help...

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Thanks to everyone for your time, and help!
MD, I was using the same images from the Catalog, and tried to divide my two tubes of '83's into two groups. the only thing I was able to determine, is that the "near " beads look larger, or maybe more bold looking, while the "far" appear to be weakly struck, both the beads, as well as the base of the bust,or profile. I took one of each "size?", and hope they are the right ones. I tried to approximate the distance between the rim, and the base of the bust, and use it for a reference, but many of the coins are corroded, so I just used the two best of the two groups for an example, and used two. hopefully I got them right. I'll try to make an overlay of them, and then i'll have something better to work with. Thanks to all, for your responses, and suggestions.
Dick
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What are the values for these? Mintages?
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The latest Canadian Coin Book 64Th edition by Charlton lists an mintage of 975,510,000 combined. Ranging in price for near beads MS-64 @ $50.00, for MS-65 $65.00, Far beads MS-64 $10.00 and MS-65 $40.00
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papeldog,
Thank you for the information,
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