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Holy Reales (Etc.) Batman!

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 Posted 09/05/2009  10:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add clembo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Anyone care to take a stab at attributing these? Most likely Bolivian as it's part of the Bolivian collection we recently bought at work.
I bought a few without holes. These belong to my boss but he let me take them home for opinions.

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Have at it experts. Any opinions are appreciated.

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 Posted 09/05/2009  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. It really is a shame that these are holed.

Pics 1&2 (From top to bottom): They are a 1797 Bolivian 4R, an 1802 Peruvian 2R, and a 1780 Peruvian 2R.

Pics 3& 4(From top to bottom and left to right): They are an 1813 Bolivian 2R, and 1804 Bolivian 1R, an 1806 Bolivian 1R, a 1774 Bolivian 1R (with some really odd chop marks or PMD. hmm, I wonder what those are), and an 1808 Bolivian 1R

I must admit that I am not as familiar with post-colonial Bolivian coins, which are 3 of the 4 from pics 5 & 6, so I will let an expert tackle those. As for the last coin in the pic, that certainly looks like a colonial cobb. But I really can not verify if it is real or not.

Update: The two on the bottom of the last two pics are Bolivian 1/4 Sols from 1853. As for the top coin in these pics, I really cannot find it in my Krause. Maybe this is a medal of some sort commemorating independence from Spain.
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09/05/2009 10:46 pm
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The top coin is a Bolivian 4 Reale - a harder denomonation and it is REAL.

The next 2 are actually from Peru - the 1780 looks like assayer initials MI - a scarce variety - REAL

The 1802 is a scarce date and would be worth in excess of $50 without the hole and is still collectable with the hole. Probably in the $20 range. Planchet also has some delamination issues. Also a REAL coin.

The Next is an 1813 Bolivian 2R - the coin appears to be real and possibly an unlisted overdate. Should be closely examined by a specialist.

The next four are Bolivian One Reale coins all appear real - the coins of Charles IIII are all fairly scarce and could be of interest to date collectors. The Charles III is common but the Chinese chop marks are VERY interestering. That one mught bring bids from chop collectors.

The coin dated 1829 is actually a Bolivian medal a Proclaimation Piece - these are ALWAYS pierced - copies without holes are rather rare. It is high grade and should bring over $35. I do not have a reference for Bolivian proclaimation coins so it could be far scarcer.

The next one is a 1/2 reale "cob" 1787 Bolivian with a trace of the King's monogram. It is pretty worn and for that reason I can not tell if it is real. These were rather crude. With the clear date it might be worth roughly $10.

The final two are quarter real coins - common types both apparently real.

All should bring at least melt - some like the medal would be CRIMINAL to melt.

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