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1828 Bust Half

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I am a VAMmer, but know little about Bust anything. I picked up an 1828 bust half for a good price and got to looking at it and there are some interesting things going on in the edge lettering.

First this is what is spelled out on the edge

FICFTY (notice the "C" in FIFTY) CENTS (still visible but filed down) "ONE DOLLAR" then HALF A DOLLAR

Looks to be large numbers (compared the small numbers on ebay auction coins and a square base 2. I do not know what the "no knob" and such mean. I can take pics after I get home from work, but wanted to know if this edge lettering error (I've read there are a bunch of em') is common with the ONE DOLLAR filed down. I read that they have FIFTY CENTS OR HALF A DOLLAR. Do they always have both?

Also if there are any good info sites for the Overton coins, that would be helpful too.

I appreciate any help.
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 Posted 09/09/2009  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
okay, first: The edge lettering varieties is not as well studied as the rest of the coin.

However, yours seems a bit strange, even tho there are common edge lettering screwups.
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signed up over there and posted the same question... Thanks for the info. If anyone has any addtl info, that would be awesome.
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I am not aware of an 1828 squared base 2 no knob. I believe all square based 2s were knobbed. Pictures would help.

Overton's reference lists 59 Edge errors and none of them would explain this coin. There are contemporary Bust Halves that are collectible and Chinese counterfeits that are junk so beware.

A lot of the auction houses publish auction archives online and are a valuable resource.
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I think you are possibly in error on what the ege says because there is no way it should say ONE DOLLAR on it anywhere. The only way to get the C in FIFTY would be for the edge to have been either lettered twice or at least partially lettered then backed up and started again.

Another possibility is what Dsquared mentioned, that it is a contemporary counterfeit.
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 Posted 09/14/2009  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MacMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can u post a photo? that will help
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Sorry for the late replies... So here are the pics and I am still lost as to which Overton number to assign this. Check out the edge lettering... Way off. It might not be "One Dollar" but it was not Half A Dollar or Fifty Cents. See for yourself. I seriously doubt it is counterfeit, and it is silver. (I know there are plenty of silver counterfeits, but I do not believe this is one.)

http://www.kodakgallery.com/ViewSli...44048429307.926582330407.1252535505475
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It does have a square-base 2, but with a knob. It appears to be Overton variety O-109 which has an R-2 rarity rating.

There are many variations in edge lettering due to the vagaries of the edge-lettering process. I don't think your coin should excite any suspicion due to the peculiar letter sequence. It looks perfectly genuine to me.
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 Posted 10/01/2009  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add remmy1100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks so much Jaobler.
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