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Are There Really Any Deals On Ebay?

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 Posted 05/07/2006  7:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dog Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Perhaps I'm lucky in that I have a half dozen good local coin shops within a 15 minute ride of my house. Over the past few months I have yet to see a deal on ebay that I cannot match or better at a local store. Anyone else coming across this issue?
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 Posted 05/07/2006  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Dog Man

Perhaps I'm lucky in that I have a half dozen good local coin shops within a 15 minute ride of my house. Over the past few months I have yet to see a deal on ebay that I cannot match or better at a local store. Anyone else coming across this issue?



No. I live more than 90 miles and perhaps two hours from the nearest coin shop. In my gas guzzler Jeep GC, it would cost me $32 for the gas alone at present $3.18/gal prices, not to mention the major aggravation of driving in big city traffic. ebay is the only practical venue available for many of us (maybe even most of us?) for buying and selling coins.

More to the point, there are tens of thousands of coin deals on ebay which a brick and mortar shop cannot match or maybe even approach. Coin stores have high overhead (rent, mortgage, electricity, heat, taxes, etc) which pretty much force them to keep their prices near the high end (yes, there's exceptions which prove the rule). Granted, there is nothing better than viewing a coin up close and personal rather than taking a chance with an image and description. However, an ebay coin buyer who has educated him/herself in the fine art of ebay buying and is knowledgeable in his/her choice of coins can find many, many bargains on ebay. There are a lot of nuances and qualifications to this statement, far too many for in-depth discussion here, but except for high value coins (say, $2K and up), it is difficult for a coin storefront owner to match what may be purchased on ebay through careful observation, selection, and responsible bids for a lower (or much lower) price.

And welcome to the forum, Dog Man! We're always happy to discuss what's on your mind - presuming I'm in a location where I can access my internet satellite (I'm a fulltime RVer).

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 Posted 05/08/2006  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those ebayers in germany and france that post coins starting from 1 euro have been having painfull experiences the last few days
I saw many coins way below the price of gold
eg A Liberty Nike 5$ for 20% below melt


Are-There-Really-Any-Deals-On-Ebay?

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 Posted 05/08/2006  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by ageka

Those ebayers in germany and france that post coins starting from 1 euro have been having painfull experiences the last few days
I saw many coins way below the price of gold
eg A Liberty Nike 5$ for 20% below melt



I'm overdue for a little business vacation trip to France and Germany and other parts of Europe (I've never been there). It wouldn't take many purchases at 20% below melt and resales at bullion prices to pay for the trip and my visits to Normandy, Verdun, Versailles, and a bunch more historical sites.
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 Posted 05/09/2006  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add djluster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dog manI can relate to you. I as well have a 4-6 dealer around me. The one I typicly go to I can not bet the prices I get from h. everything I get is alot less plus no shipping. some of them I get the coins or set for the same as I can get them there. the only time I buy on ebay now is when I cna not find it anywhere else. I have also started to be upset with some of the coins I have bought from there. I have now switch to buying most of my stuff form dealer websites I might pay a little more but I know I am getting a nice coin. so yes I do feel that is getting hard to get a good deal, but I suppose if you really look then you might or if someone put it in the wrong spot then maybe
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 Posted 05/09/2006  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Morgan Fred

quote:
Originally posted by ageka

Those ebayers in germany and france that post coins starting from 1 euro have been having painfull experiences the last few days
I saw many coins way below the price of gold
eg A Liberty Nike 5$ for 20% below melt



I'm overdue for a little business vacation trip to France and Germany and other parts of Europe (I've never been there). It wouldn't take many purchases at 20% below melt and resales at bullion prices to pay for the trip and my visits to Normandy, Verdun, Versailles, and a bunch more historical sites.



Well you have to know what probably is going low
The vendor of this coin thought that because this 5$ is the first time on ebay in the 3 years I am watching it would be a good risk
But I know that most Canadian half ounces and all recent American coins go below melt on ebay germany
Last week a MS65 600 Baht Sirikit went below melt and my friend was really upset I did not put a bet in ( We selfgrade since he is an ex coindealer)
On ebay France it is even simpler ; anything not napoleon will go below melt

In france beware ; they have a tax on gold
In germany the coinshops are expensive
For non numismatic goldcoins Belgium is a paradise
Napoleons, lucky angels, roosters, sovereigns, 10 florins, 20 belgian franks in Leopold II and Albert one and assorted ounces of Kangeroos and Maples and Krugers all at 1.5% over melt at any large coinexchanger
I attach the hourly prices of the Belgian marketmaker
Click on the word Goudkoersen to get the bid ask spread

http://www.gold4ex.be/servlet/javap...or_new&lg=nl

( you may be too late because I pointed out all the best spots to Gary Burke )
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 Posted 05/09/2006  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by ageka

Those ebayers in germany and france that post coins starting from 1 euro have been having painfull experiences the last few days
I saw many coins way below the price of gold
eg A Liberty Nike 5$ for 20% below melt


Are-There-Really-Any-Deals-On-Ebay?





What a beautiful coin. Is this a Bullion coin and where was it made? Wow, what a beautiful classic design. Is this coin expensive? And are there other years with this design? Any idea who designed this? It is really beautiful. What does the term Nike mean?
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05/09/2006 08:49 am
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 Posted 05/09/2006  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a beautiful coin. Is this a Bullion coin and where was it made? Wow, what a beautiful classic design. Is this coin expensive? And are there other years with this design? Any idea who designed this? It is really beautiful.

It is the first american coin for the olympics
It is in a series of american gold 5$ coins made out of 0.242 ounces net gold content (900/1000 pure )and made in 230 000 odd proofs according to Krause Mishler
( I allready have the American constitution below melt )
The picture is of the goddess NIKE ; goddess of the winners
I do not know what the issue price was nor who the designer is
It comes in a special capsule ; I do not know whether or not there was a box originally
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 Posted 05/09/2006  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you're collecting coins which don't cost $1000 apiece, then ebay is a Godsend. It's the world's largest coin store, and every price is negotiable. At any given time, there are over 100,000 US coins available.

The dark side to that optimistic statement is, if you are not an informed and disciplined buyer, you are going to get taken. Misrepresentations and shady sellers abound. There are many instances of bidders getting caught up in a frenzy, and bidding a coin to well over its' true worth. As a buyer, you must know the coins you're looking at - grading, value, rarity. You must have the discipline to walk away from a coin which isn't shown in sufficient detail. You must have enough knowledge of coin photography and post-processing software to know when a picture has been doctored, and it really helps to be able to recognize a good coin which has been poorly pictured. You must be willing to set a firm price that you're willing to pay, and walk away if that price is exceeded - there will always be another coin, on another day. It's been argued from a moral standpoint for years, but the only way to consistently get the coin you want at the price you're willing to pay is by sniping it.

If you can develop the skills and discipline, then ebay is your greatest asset as a collector. The rules can be defined very simply:

1) Don't shop there for coins worth more than, say, $200 unless you're a real expert.
2) Know the coin you're buying.
3) Know the potential misrepresentations.
4) Research the seller.
5) Set your price and stick to it.

I try to follow those rules as strictly as possible, and generally I have good luck. Even so, I've been taken a couple times. Of course, I've also nabbed some real treasures.

Caveat emptor.

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