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Ultrasonic Cleaning Of Coins..

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 Posted 05/07/2006  10:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add StupidSid to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have alot of old coins so I bought a small ultra sonic cleaner.. before it arrives and I start cleaning coins like a kid in a candy store, I was wondering is it safe to do that?

Even if I just use warm water in the cleaner?
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 Posted 05/07/2006  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi StupidSid

You will some folks on both sides of that questions !! My personal feeling is that cleaning is cleaning , unless it is to save a very rare valuble coin from destruction , and then only by professionals.

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 Posted 05/07/2006  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add humpybong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would depend on what you want to remove from the coins....you would not want to clean away the history of a coin.

If it has paint on it then I would agree to a light clean but only if it is a low value coin. You should never clean a good quality high value coin.
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 Posted 05/07/2006  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StupidSid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the tone of old coins so I would not be looking to remove that... but at the same time I don't want dirty coins.

I have a large collection (8,000) of lose coins and I am looking to organize them, and clean the dirty ones in the process.

Having them cleaning by a pro might be to expensive and I am sure not worth the money for lower value coins.

I am just worried that Ultrasonic cleaning will damage the coins, is that possible, can it scratch or pit the coin?
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 Posted 05/09/2006  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StupidSid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not going to clean all my coins... (I got the cleaner today) I was just thinking about cleaning my silver quarters that are really only worth the silver price...

I am not going to clean anything that is old, an error, or is good shape ( I have no idea how to grade coins but I think I will get buy)

Do you think that is ok? Or should I just drop the subject?
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 Posted 05/09/2006  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Abyss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I am just worried that Ultrasonic cleaning will damage the coins, is that possible, can it scratch or pit the coin?



I have no experience cleaning coins,but I know a little bit about ultrasounds and how they work on anything ( including coins I guess) :
Ultrasounds will not scratch the coins( only you scratch them when you throw them in)
Ultrasounds will not pit,that is unless the dirt sits on a pinhole in the coin.If the whole is there already,then yes,it will be revealed.
Ultrasounds just generate a rupture(and excitation)between the layers( in this case your coin and whatever stuff is on top of it)
It could be argued here that if the ultrasonic emits powerfull enough waves might loosen particles of the original material (which are weakly held on the surface,and in extreme instances even disrupt the material).But as it stands,you are talking about a little cleaner which I don't think it will do any damage at all.
As a side line,our technicians use in the repair department a big ultrasonic cleaner for very hard to remove clearcoat coatings(harder than concrete when dry).It works with a special fluid,not water.The coatings come off,but the stainless steel of the respective part to be cleaned never gets attacked.
You can always try it by putting in a few coins you really don't care about and see the results.
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 Posted 05/09/2006  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Untrasonic cleaning itself shouldn't damage coins. The only damage an ultrasonic bath might do would come from how the coins are stacked/placed/arranged in the cleaner. You don't want two coins touching each other or a coin sitting flat on the base of the cleaner - either case could cause the coins to rub as they dance around in the untrasonic waves.
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 Posted 05/11/2006  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StupidSid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Abyss

quote:
I am just worried that Ultrasonic cleaning will damage the coins, is that possible, can it scratch or pit the coin?



I have no experience cleaning coins,but I know a little bit about ultrasounds and how they work on anything ( including coins I guess) :
Ultrasounds will not scratch the coins( only you scratch them when you throw them in)
Ultrasounds will not pit,that is unless the dirt sits on a pinhole in the coin.If the whole is there already,then yes,it will be revealed.
Ultrasounds just generate a rupture(and excitation)between the layers( in this case your coin and whatever stuff is on top of it)
It could be argued here that if the ultrasonic emits powerfull enough waves might loosen particles of the original material (which are weakly held on the surface,and in extreme instances even disrupt the material).But as it stands,you are talking about a little cleaner which I don't think it will do any damage at all.
As a side line,our technicians use in the repair department a big ultrasonic cleaner for very hard to remove clearcoat coatings(harder than concrete when dry).It works with a special fluid,not water.The coatings come off,but the stainless steel of the respective part to be cleaned never gets attacked.
You can always try it by putting in a few coins you really don't care about and see the results.




I did just that and tried a few coins, it did not do anything to clean the coins, so I guess all my coins will stay the way they are, and if they are going to get cleaned somebody else is gonna have to do it.

The cleaner did not dammage the coins it also comes with a plastic basket to prefent metal on metal contact... but results were very very limited and not worth the trouble.
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