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Spot The Fake 1909-S IHC

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 Posted 09/19/2009  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whatever was done, there is definately something visibly wrong with the area around the MM and is an indicator of a possible added or changed MM.
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 Posted 09/21/2009  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brannenworks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This raises the question, is there anyone out there who makes fake coins for their own collection? That is, rather than faking a coin for profit, would anyone do it for their own collection.
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"This raises the question, is there anyone out there who makes fake coins for their own collection? That is, rather than faking a coin for profit, would anyone do it for their own collection"?
Many years ago, I understood that possession of a "fake', or otherwise counterfit coin was very risky, and illegal. maybe they have changed the law, to read possession, for presonal use, but not legal to be sold. anyone know what the current status is?
I have a couple fakes, one is a 1632 COB, and a flowinghair dollar. The latter was a recent gift from my D-I-L, who qworks for the school district, and caters in the loblic restaurant, which serves the city employees, police, etc,etc. She said it, and a 1986 "Ellis Island" dollar were found in the register. no one knows who paid for their meal with them! I have posted both of them, here on CCF They are both magnetic, obviously,. not silver, and also obviously, Chinese origin, but fake!
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 Posted 09/22/2009  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I remember your Ellis Island dollar...that one was probably an immigrant too
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My eye went to #2 immediately! Nice tooling also :-)
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"This raises the question, is there anyone out there who makes fake coins for their own collection? That is, rather than faking a coin for profit, would anyone do it for their own collection"?

I would not. I understand the concept of "filling the hole" in one's collection but not this way. I also understand that for many, the keys of any series are either obtainable in very low grades or not at all. Again, knowing diagnostics of a particular coin and applying that when purchasing is so very important. I really like this book
http://www.amazon.com/Official-Guid...p/0375720502
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I'll go same with bill069, it's pic # 1
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Sorry, Nic. It is number 2, the "flat, fat" one. That is what gave it away.
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 Posted 09/22/2009  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the confusion here is due to Bill069 making his own photo.
Yep--#2 is the fake.
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I'm sorry about the confusion I created. I only wanted to add a little humor. I edited my second post.
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Thanks DVD Collector, you got me there, reason I had thought it was #1 was that I magnified that pic by 900% then 1,100%, to see the color pixelation, the borders and coloring of the "S" seemed entirely different from the surrounding area, 2,3 & 4 "S"s pixelation vs area are the same. Thus pic #1

Yes, copy #2 pic's the one, correction noted

Lets try another one DVD, this is interesting!
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I should find some photos of 1877 IHCs...those are interesting!
Some fakes are very convincing, except for an important detail.
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"This raises the question, is there anyone out there who makes fake coins for their own collection? That is, rather than faking a coin for profit, would anyone do it for their own collection"?

I'm not sure what the point would be. It isn't cheap to make just one fake, at least not a good one. It would probably cost less to just buy a genuine coin. You really need to make multiple fakes and sell them to offset the cost. Once you're doing that why would they stop once they broke even and still have a fake in their collection?
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the point is to collect the fakes, not MAKE them. That could get very risky. Most of us have come across faskes, of this, or that coin, and if one didn't buy it for a genuine coin,mthen they might have a chance to redeem their money. No, I was only thinking of a colletcion of fakes only. Jiust like the type sets. there ios enough 'faking going on, with out joining the crowd.
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