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Spain 1718(?) Coin

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 Posted 09/23/2009  12:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JOE to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I apologize for posting the same coin twice (I also listed it in the World variety and error coins section) but I can't for the life of me figure out what date or denomination this coin is, due to the inscription being so worn and doubled. I also do not own the Krause book going back to the 1700s, so this ones left me puzzled.

The flip I purchased it in had "1718" written on it, but I'm not sure if thats the actual date of the coin.

Spain-1718?-Coin

Spain-1718?-Coin

May I ask what date and demnomination this coin is please? (And if possible, wether it is Double struck, or a doubled die?)

Thanks!

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 Posted 09/23/2009  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This resembles: Spain km531 8 Maravedis 1837-1858


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 Posted 09/23/2009  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does seem to be an 8 Maravedis, and double struck. But this coin looks to be a cast copy to me.
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 Posted 09/23/2009  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JOE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
alganbagerap - Thanks for that photo! It helps me understand what the motto is, I don't believe that is exactly the same coin however. There appears to be a number "8" or letter "B" on the lower reverse on mine, along with some other odd lettering, where there is none on that coin. (perhaps because its an earlier year/design)

echizento - Thanks for your reply, are you certain this is a counterfit? I was thinking of selling this coin in the future, and I want to be absolutely certain this is authentic before doing so. Is there a way to find out if this is authentic?
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 Posted 09/24/2009  02:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is indeed a 8 maravedi in the name of Isabel II, which was cast in bell metal. Year is 1837, mint is Pamplona. KM#517
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 Posted 09/24/2009  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JOE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much bart for that info! It has saved me a lot of time trying to research this coin. I found it in the krause book under that number, I guess they wrote the wrong year on its flip. The book says it is "Cast bell metal", and looks exactly the same as the one in the book, So I believe this coin to be authentic.

Phew... I was worried I had a counterfit on my hands.
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How can a genuine cast coin be double struck? =)
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Numismat -- I'm sorry, I don't understand, Do you believe this coin to be authentic or a counterfit copy? I hate to be a pest but I'm planning on selling this coin on ebay soon, And I want to be sure that I'm not selling a counterfit/copy.
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It looks like a genuine old piece, I was curious about how the double struck effect
can happen during the casting process. That is a bit of a mystery. =)
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