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Question? Lincoln Cent On Wrong Planchet?

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I have a 1968s Lincoln Cent. I noticed what I thought was doubling and took it from it's 2x2 to take some pics. I noticed it is quite a lot thicker than a cent should be. Is this normal for the proofs of that time? It weighs 3.2 grams according to my scale.

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I just found a site that lists known coins of the us mint struck on planchets for another country. it listed this:


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1968-S Cent Struck on a Philippine 5 Centavos Planchet (Brass 60%, Cu Zinc 40%)


http://minterrornews.com/news-5-13-...he_mint.html
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09/23/2009 8:23 pm
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 Posted 09/23/2009  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeThePenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks brass...... lol
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 Posted 09/23/2009  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You might start by weighing the coin in question!
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hi ratman. I did weigh the coin. it weighs 3.2 grams
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 Posted 09/23/2009  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it actually a 1968-S proof or is it a business strike 1968-S? That year was the return of business strike cents at San Francisco. A proof coin will have thicker squared off rims since it is struck with a higher pressure. The problem here is that a 1958-1966 5 centavo brass planchet is quite a bit heavier at 4.8 grams.
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i Believe it is a proof. I had no idea what the centavo looked like. I was just surprised by the color and thickness of the coin. So if it is a proof it is supposed to look this way then?
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It is counter-intuitive but striking a coin harder between the dies will actually make the coin thicker at the edge. If you look at your edge view pictures the coin on the right shows a typically struck business strike coin. The planchet has expanded to the point where the edge has made contact with the collar resulting in a flat surface, but not how there is a beveled area on either side from that flat edge up to the rim.

But on a proof coin such as the coin on the left the flat area on the edge has now expanded out completely, completely filling in the rims and resulting in a sharp squared corner where the edge meets the rim. This also results in a thicker edge that that seen on the business strikes.
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A typical 95% copper proof cent weighs 3.11 grams so the weight is not far off? It does look like the color is off...more yellow than I would expect from a proof cent that is this old. Normally they are more red than yellow. Are the surfaces also this color or just the edges?
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 Posted 09/26/2009  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silver certificate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thats a thick coin,looks like brass,probably pretty rare
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 Posted 09/26/2009  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
HI all I will take some more pics of the rest of the coin as well.
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i took a couple pics but its hard to show color difference at night. The lamp just glares of the surface of both cents. The coin in question is on the left.

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09/26/2009 11:46 pm
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i will try to repost tomorrow if the sun comes out. since obviously my colors are messed up. lol my background color is a white piece of paper so not sure why it came out pink in the bottom image.
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The reverse of the 68 looks like a proof to me.

Also, my paper backgrounds often come out pink too. I think it's probably just dim lighting.
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It is a normal proof coin.
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It sure looks like a circulating proof to me. Check out the crispness of the back detail and mirror polish.
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