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Can Anyone Post A Picture Of The 1894 Cent Large 4 ?

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 Posted 10/05/2009  02:21 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add D to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So far I have not been able to find the large 4 variety for comparision of the two 4's. Pictures would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.........
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 Posted 10/05/2009  04:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Hi d23, these the ones?


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 Posted 10/05/2009  05:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bill in Burl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a long-time collector of Vicky varieties, I find that the "large 4" is an inaccurate description. It should be "fat 4". The "normal" 4 is slightly larger (height-wise) than hard to find "fat 4", with visibly thinner lines all over. You will see a real difference in the diagonal member of the 4 in the fat 4 (which people inaccurately call the "large 4", as the thickness of the line will be 2-3 times as thick as the normal one. If you really wanted to take a Webster's disctionary description of the two, you would say the extremely common large thin 4 vs the scarce short fat 4. I'll try to find one to post, but have never posted here so I wouldn't have a clue.... once you see your first one, you'll never mix them up again as you can tell the difference almost at arm's length.
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 Posted 10/05/2009  06:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bill in Burl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the normal, thin 4 from an XF.

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 Posted 10/05/2009  06:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bill in Burl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And here is the short, fat 4 from a VF-30 coin. It is near impossible to mix up the 2. Both shots with a QX-5 at 609X.

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 Posted 10/05/2009  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bill, What would the rarity of the fat 4 be?
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Thanks guys and oklacda your pictures are great I see what you mean after seeing them they stand out like a sore thumb. I like your choice of words better the Fat 4 and the Thin 4......
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 Posted 10/05/2009  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dan-in-crystal-lake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My experience with these is about 1 out of 20 or so is the fat 4 variety
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 Posted 10/05/2009  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bill in Burl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From my standpoint here outside Toronto, I would estimate about 1:30 and many are pretty well circulated. A worn coin less than VF-30 will make all the lines of the digit thicker, since they are tapered, and as they wear, they will be thicker just due to the wear. Still, a "fat 4" is very easy to spot.
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 Posted 10/05/2009  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bill in Burl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And, also, for you 1894 afficianados, don't forget some of the neat "thin 4's". This one in photos I have saved is scratched, but I have a few others in better shape, but the tripling is very evident. Again about 1:30 for finding them or for scarcity.
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 Posted 10/05/2009  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bill in Burl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This site is not letting me post a picture of the tripled 9.
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 Posted 10/05/2009  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bill in Burl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, I had an apostophy in the title. This nshould be OK.

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 Posted 10/05/2009  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oklacda, would you do me the favor of pointing out the 'tripling" indications, please? I have no frontal vision, and can't tell. thanks,
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 Posted 10/05/2009  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Oklacda, didnt know there was so much on an 1894 coin, is there a premium on the triple 9 with the slim 4, or is it just an oddity? thank you for the info
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 Posted 10/06/2009  04:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bill in Burl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought that the tripling is pretty evident, but look at the knob and the top, both left & right. The strike is a little low/high but also rotated CCW. Since this repunched coin was recognized by Griffin (R-5), but not by Charlton or ICCS yet, there would be maybe a 25-30% premium to both a knowlegable buyer & seller and, if ever put in Charlton or Trends, who knows?
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 Posted 10/06/2009  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find
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