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While going through some cents with young Clinton, we came across this one. At first I just dismissed this as damage. Of course a 14 year old wants to know how it was damaged.   Although the pictures tend to show this as a raised area, it is actually a rather deep incuse gouge. 2nd thought, struck through scrap. Picture of reverse opposite of damage.  This brought on a third opinion. Since I can find no sign of a break in the copper layer on the obverse, this damage must have happened while this was still a zinc blank or planchet. The missing copper on the reverse leads me to believe that there was a raised area on the opposite side of the damage. This excess metal had to be displaced during the striking of the coin leaving the exposed areas of zinc on the reverse. Make sense? |
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Looks like a strike thru. Can you get a pic of the whole obv and rev?
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It sure looks like a struck through. Quote:
The missing copper on the reverse leads me to believe that there was a raised area on the opposite side of the damage. Or the struck through caused the material on the reverse to be displaced during the strike. Edited by rockdude
10/06/2009 3:10 pm
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Gotta see the entire obverse...but the theory doesn't fly.
If it were something on the planchet before the strike,the strike would have pressed it into the obverse. It would be flattened.
Whatever it is , it has to be something else.
Thanks,
Bill
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The reverse has been scraped, removing the plating...you can see damage on the bottom of the O and the N.
In looking at the obverse I think it is added to the coin somehow. The outer, uneven edges of the anomaly make me think that glue might be involved rather than metal but I can't be sure until a picture of the entire obverse is up.
Thanks,
Bill
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Hi Bill, couple more pictures. First one is upside down, but shows this is a furrow in the coin. No edges on the furrow, toothpick slides right in from either side or end.  Again this shows no separation in the copper exposing zinc. This is what makes me feel damage was done prior to the copper plating process. Best I can do on larger pictures. The way I've my camera set up causes great discomfort to my leg, and I'm just not into that. Thanks for the help, CJ & Clinton.   One more picture. Noticed the zinc on the rim just above furrow. I can't help but think this is all tied in since it's all located on the same area of the coin. Sad part is, this will most likely remain one of lifes unsolved mysteries.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The obverse has to be a strike through. It is incuse and the copper plating is intact so it can't be a gouge or scrape. It can't be a post strike indentation because the is no deformation or damage to the reverse. If it was in the zinc planchet pre-plating the void would have been crushed and "filled" during the strike,
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It is amazing how different two photos of the same thing can look. In the first photo, I would swear the mark in question is in relief but in the second photo, it is obviously in the coin. I agree with Conder that it is most likely struck through, probably scrap. As for the exposed zinc, I am just not sure. It looks like there is a mark on the O but I do not see anything else that looks like a scrape. I can see the flow lines in the zinc, If it was scraped, I should not be able to see that  |
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I still see a damage on the lower part of the O and the N that could be the cause of the zinc exposure.
As mentioned though, the earlier pictures made the anomaly look raised on the surface.
It is definitely a struck through error. What it was struck through would be pretty tough to identify.
Thanks for the better pics! We got the obverse now, I am still not sure about the reverse.
Thanks,
Bill
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