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 Posted 10/10/2009  10:49 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
http://cgi.ebay.com/1909S-VDB-S-has...ed_W0QQitemZ330366110722QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item4ceb5acc02

In my opinion this is probably not the best thing to bid on, best case scenario a damaged 1909 vdb. How high do you think the bids will go?
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 Posted 10/10/2009  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hc8604 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is quite the price... I bet the winner has plans for this coin...
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 Posted 10/10/2009  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I bet they aint the most honest plans either!
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 Posted 10/11/2009  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hippiebrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I, for one, would rather keep the hole in my album than get a fake!! This coin is going to end up back in the market, and someone who doesn't know better will do just what the seller did, get hosed!! I HATE FAKES!!
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 Posted 10/11/2009  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Has any body thought of reporting the coin as counterfeit to E-Bay?
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 Posted 10/11/2009  10:06 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Has any body thought of reporting the coin as counterfeit to E-Bay?

The seller has disclosed that it is a 1909 V.D.B. with S added. I don't think reporting it will do any good. If he was passing it off as a genuine 09-S V.D.B., then we'd have a problem.

On another note. After reading his item description, there is no doubt in my mind that the seller is shady. These bidders know what this coin is. If they still want to bid on it, well, that's their stupidity.
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 Posted 10/11/2009  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hopefully ebay will remove it. This is my letter to them:


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This seller is selling a coin that has been altered! Although he states that it has indeed been altered! The problem is if it's legal and within ebay policy! The coin WAS a $15.00 coin (maybe) and now represents a $1500.00 coin (or more). So now this coin is actually a (copy, replica, reproduction or counterfeit) of the $1500.00 coin and is not marked as such. If this coin is allowed to sell on ebay you can pretty much guarantee it will be relisted down the road by an even shadier character with the intent to pass it off as the real thing at a huge profit! This is the kind of thing that makes us collectors cringe (and the hobby protection act is supposed to protect us from) Thanks for your time (and hopefully your support) in this matter!
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 Posted 10/11/2009  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He has three other auctions and all of them have the added S. Also, his feedback is all over 90 days old and the items he has sold are listed as "private." This doesn't look good at all, on any level.

Nice letter ratman. I hope it accomplishes something.
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 Posted 10/11/2009  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://cgi.ebay.com/1909S-Indian-He...nt_W0QQitemZ a href= https://www.coincommunity.com/go/link.asp?target=https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/330366113900 target= _blank rel= nofollow 330366113900 /a QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item4ceb5ad86c
http://cgi.ebay.com/1931S-Lincoln-P...nt_W0QQitemZ a href= https://www.coincommunity.com/go/link.asp?target=https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/330366112123 target= _blank rel= nofollow 330366112123 /a QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item4ceb5ad17b
I reported these also! Let's see what ebay does! I wouldn't bid on these, or bid on them later when a scamster lists them as the real things later....but somebody would and get taken!
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 Posted 10/11/2009  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dibby33 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There should be a fund available that all decent coin collectors donate to to purchase these fakes and get them off the market and destroyed. Secret squirrel stuff :-)
...of course that would make a market for the fakes - so we would have to use Plan B which of course we cannot talk about.
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 Posted 10/11/2009  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Figman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Who say's this isn't the seller who counterfeited these coins in the first place?
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 Posted 10/14/2009  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Finally got a response (actually 3) from ebay! They cancelled all 3 auctions for policy violation! WOOHOO! Success! I actually gave up on them doing anything about these. They must have really had to put their thinking caps on to make this decision! EDIT...Actually, at least 2 of these auctions had ended yesterday before ebay made their decision. So the transactions were probably already completed and the Seller probably has been paid.
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10/14/2009 12:45 pm
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 Posted 10/14/2009  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh well 1 out of 3 aint bad.
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