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What Do You Know About This Double Eagle?

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 Posted 10/12/2009  12:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DutchCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey, I found this really strange double eagle.

It seems to be made from bronze or copper:

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I contacted the owner of the coin but she has no clue what it is, what it weighs (she estimates it 33 gr (or about 1 ounce)) where it comes from etc.

Does anyone know more about this coin?
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 Posted 10/12/2009  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownas22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me it looks to be a poorly crafted counterfeit double eagle. The portrait of Liberty is not even close, neither is the eagle on the rev. Looks like it was made of some copper alloy, certainly not gold. I might would give $2-$3 for it just to have a conversation piece or to have a good laugh every now and then.
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 Posted 10/12/2009  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DutchCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, thanks.

How about this one though:

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I'm not sure what it's worth. It has some scratches on the face (jaw, cheek, forhead, hair) and some on the eagle (tips of wings, and tail, and near the claw/arrows) it also has a scratch (1 mm) above the 2 near the neck.
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 Posted 10/12/2009  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is not a genuine Double Eagle either
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 Posted 10/12/2009  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DutchCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
how can you tell?
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 Posted 10/12/2009  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownas22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The portrit and eagle is not accurate on this coin either. If you go to the heritage auction site and look at several Double Eagles you will see that they differ from the coins you have pictured. The second one is closer to accurate color, but I doubt it is made of gold. How much did you pay for these?
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 Posted 10/12/2009  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DutchCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i only bought the bottom one for 7,5 euro
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 Posted 10/12/2009  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DutchCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok, I think I see a big difference now.

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the tiara is not between the stars like an original. But that would mean this one is fake too:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...TRK:MEWAX:IT
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 Posted 10/12/2009  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't even look close to a real one.
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 Posted 10/12/2009  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The mint mark looks funny to me, but I suppose that there are a few different fonts possible on that?
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 Posted 10/12/2009  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An 1873 Double Eagle to compare:


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 Posted 10/12/2009  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kevin Vaillancourt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it looks painted. It looks like there is bronze or copper color around the face and above the eye
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 Posted 10/12/2009  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obvious fake, no denticles on the obverse and the reverse just looks all wrong. However a fun pocket piece to carry around.
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 Posted 10/13/2009  07:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
kind of looks like both of those coins were struck with the same dies or at least by the same counterfeiter. I don't know what 7.5 euro comes to in US dollars but I wouldn't have paid over $1.00 for it myself if I wanted some type of counterfeit like that for reference of how some of them look
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 Posted 10/14/2009  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brewzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is not even close to a real Double Eagle.....


Still looking,need money.Brewzz
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 Posted 10/14/2009  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I wouldn't even know if I'd call that a counterfeit Dutch. I don't think it would have fooled anyone even as a contemporary piece, much less a numismatic piece. I would say it was made as a copy and an interesting conversation piece. :-)
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