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1838 Bust Half For The Type Set.

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Grade and Opinions please.

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 Posted 11/04/2009  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice coin, I like the die break running from Half through United. Looks like a weak strike in the area of the lower shield and feathers. I'm going to grade it at AU-53.
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 Posted 11/04/2009  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin Johnny! Even though a few of the stars have incomplete radial lines the strike still seems slightly above average for the issue. The two tiny pockmarks on the cheek are not distracting and the coin otherwise is quite mark-free.

The apparent weak luster would limit the grade so I'll agree with Echizento on AU-53. If there is more luster than shown in the photos I'd go AU-55. There are no obvious signs of cleaning but the very uniform color could indicate it had been gently dipped once upon a time. I expect it would still grade at PCGS or NGC.

Is that a Cud next to the date, or a rim bruise (hope not!)?
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I'd go with AU58. Very problem free! Nice coin!!

I think the rim marks at 5 and 9 olock on the obverse are just Cuds from the minting process.

Nice die cracks on the reverse!
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 Posted 11/04/2009  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tumbleweedtrumpet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Amazing coin!
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 Posted 11/04/2009  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinyoungsta to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
beautyful coin, I'm drooling right now
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 Posted 11/05/2009  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverTurtle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It will look good in the 7070.
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 Posted 11/05/2009  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinyoungsta to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i dont want to sound stupid, but that is a reeded edge bust right. Man I really like that coin
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Thanks for all of your comments guys! Yeah, I was thinking in the choice AU range, but I don't have the coin in hand yet. It was purchased raw for $248, and I admit it is kind of a gamble. It is obvious to me that the obverse has a significant amount of luster remaining, but the reverse is harder to tell. I am sure it has been dipped at some point, but I'd be surprised if it were harshly cleaned. The seller seemed reputable and stated it was not cleaned, so I will just return it if it is. I agree with AU-53, with a shot at 55. It would need a lot more luster to make 58. Yes, it is a reeded edge bust. :-)
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 Posted 11/05/2009  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris12018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a beautiful coin
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 Posted 11/06/2009  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Is that a Cud next to the date, or a rim bruise (hope not!)?


It sure looks like Cud to me from the pics. I assumed that's what it is.
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Updated Pics. I think the coin had an old dipping, or very light cleaning. Not enought to prevent slabbing imo. It does retain lots of luster and decent surfaces. I am still thinking AU-53 or 55, and am quite pleased with it! The mark on the obverse rim is Cud, and the reverse is absolutely LOADED with die breaks.

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 Posted 11/11/2009  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcook54 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I need one for my 7070 and I drool over these things. I think an AU is out of my (wife's) price range but appreciate you posting this one! If that's the Bust Half type I'd love to see what your other coins look like.
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JCook: Thanks! Ask and you shall receive. :-) Here are the latest photos of my type set:
https://goccf.com/t/49752

I've upgraded several and sold several since then(including the vf/xf 1837 in the pictured hole), but it's fairly representative of my collection.
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