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2005 'Platypus' 20 Cent Coin.

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 Posted 05/17/2006  06:03 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add spd_dmn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I saw a 2005 20cent platypus coin on ebay for sale, and it was hyped as being rare with low mintage and will be well sought after. I went and checked my wallet and ended up finding 6. This leads me to doubt the accuracy of this information. Any ideas? Is it worth holding onto them?

Cheers, spd.
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 Posted 05/17/2006  06:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lim118 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No one knows what the mintage is until the RAM Annual reports are out..this is normally in October of each year. Rare? This term has been used too liberally by ebay sellers.

Have a read of my thread on the Denmark's Royal Baby PNC.
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 Posted 05/17/2006  07:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it was this coin that was omitted from the Macdonalds catalog. I thought it must have been rare too and sent an e-mail to Macdonalds, they will add it in next year. Has anyone got a Macdonalds catalog to confirm this, mine has gone back to the library. I too have since found many of them.

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 Posted 05/17/2006  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not too sure if it is rare or not, but I don't think I have any in mine except a bunch of unc WWII commemorative 20 cent coins.
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 Posted 05/18/2006  05:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add the-purple-penny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Macca's 13th says the 2005 platypus is a mint set only coin.
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 Posted 05/18/2006  07:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grendelfreak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think thats a mistake, I have two or three 2005 platypus just lying around.
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 Posted 05/18/2006  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lim118 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In numismatic terms, "rare" is used when there are only a handful of specimens known to be in existence. This one is certainly not rare when you can see a few rolls of them up for auction on ebay. I also have a roll of them in my roll box...
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 Posted 05/18/2006  07:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spd_dmn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, judging by the response this obviously isn't a worthwhile coin. I'll hold onto a couple anyhow as it's only 20 cents. And what is macca's? I assume it's NOT what I think it is, lol.
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 Posted 05/18/2006  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lim118 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by spd_dmn

Okay, judging by the response this obviously isn't a worthwhile coin. I'll hold onto a couple anyhow as it's only 20 cents. And what is macca's? I assume it's NOT what I think it is, lol.



Maccas is the affectionate term used by Aussie collectors for "The Pocket Guide to Australian Coins and Banknotes" by Greg MacDonald currently in it's 13th edition. RRP for this excellent guide is $24.95.
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 Posted 05/18/2006  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by harrisjk

Macca's 13th says the 2005 platypus is a mint set only coin.

Not correct. I have a number of rolls of them.
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 Posted 05/19/2006  02:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oracle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There was a bit of hype about the 2005 platypus around last year as it was supposed to have been not for circulation. At least one large dealer I know of was actively fanning the flames! However as so often happens it definately did go into circulation (although as lim points out you only ever find out for sure when the RAM report comes out, and sometimes not even then!). The number I have seen in change would suggest that while it is certainly not as common as the commenorative, it is not that scarce. I have seen dozens and have actually given up looking.

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Actually, I just got one in change today! And from the looks of being quite circulated, I am guessing that there has to be a fair bit more, not just cracked out from mint sets and spent.
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Hello everyone!

The 04-05 annual report lists the mintage for these at 1.600 Mill. That means nothing as we know because the total is worked out over 2 annual reports. What will the 05-06 report say? Anyone's guess. They produced 21.677 Mill of the coming home coins and switched early to the platypus due to design flaws in the coming home dies.

My guess is there are more 05 platypuses than there are coming home coins.
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 Posted 05/19/2006  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lim118 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello shep.....great to see you over here as well....
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Hello Oracle....welcome to the Community as well...
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 Posted 05/30/2006  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brissyboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi guys,

Shep is most likely correct. In Brisbane almost every third 20c seems to be a 2005 Platypus 20c. They certainly seem more common than the 2005 commemorative.

McDonald's book is incorrect with a few issues and we have been working with him to have the errors corrected for the next issue. The 2005 Platypus 20 cents is a circulation only coin. You will not find it officially in any sets. So if you see a choice unmarked coin in change, keep it.

It is also a one year type as the 2005 obverse is different to previous years and to the 2006 Platypus issue. The text font on the obverse is different.

So for circulating 20 cents we have 2004 with two different obverse varieties (pointed A and flat top A) with Platypus reverse, 2005 with different obverse to 2004 and 2 reverse types Platypus and End of WW2 Coming Home then a different obverse again for 2006 with Platypus reverse.

If we consider the Proof coins, 2004 also has two reverse varieties of the Platypus - the now standard "large SD" and the old standard "small SD" initials just to left of left fore-limb. It can be found on both obverse variety proof coins and on the one variety (pointed A) silver proof. Both reverse varieties can be found on the 2006 proof coins. The 2006 Silver proof Platypus appears to have the large SD but has the young head of the Queen on the obverse.

Mint sets at this stage all appear to have large SD with both obverse varieties for 2004, the Coming Home commemorative for 2005 and large SD for 2006 Platypus.

Hope that makes sense. Whom here are collectors of the Australian 20 cents?

Wayne
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