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Valued Member
Canada
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My Krause book only goes back to 1900, and I'm soon to correct this, but I need some information on 2 coins before tomorrow morning. I am hoping someone might not mind looking up something for me. Coins in question : a) 1886, 1 Penny, Great Britain, Grade EF b) 1895, 3 Pence, Great Britain, Grade F
Info requesting : 1)Composition 2)Mintage 3)Weight 4)Diameter 5)ASW (99.9% certain ASW=0 but you never know) 6)Value
If you have any or all of this information, I would greatly appreciate it. (Pictures available if requested)
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Valued Member
 Canada
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If it helps, I believe the designations for these coins are KM#749.2 and KM#778.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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a) KM #755 (749.2 minted till 1874) bronze (copper 95%, tin 4%, zinc 1%), 6087759, 9.4 grams, 31 mm, (E)XF $20; b) KM #777 (778 is a maundy 4d) .925 silver (.0420 oz. ASW), 4788609, 1.4 gram, 16 mm, F $0.85
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Thank you ever so much. Doing a report of sort for an associate on his collection and these last two were a hold out. Breakfast with him in 8 hours and now I can finish it. Greatly appreciate the help.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Do I ever feel stupid. All that effort and I was foiled by a typo. It is actually an 1866 penny, not an 1886. I'll include the pictures just so that you know I have it right this time. So sorry for the nuisance.   Not sure why scan look so grainy, I've not changed anything. Oh well, that'll be my next issue.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Krause lists the 1866 penny as $90 in XF. KM 749.2.
Probably should get values from the Spinks book, though - their values are a lot more accurate. If nobody pipes up here in a bit, I'll go get my book and list the values from there for ya.
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United States
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Sorry, the rest of the info: Mintage 9,999,000, Bronze, weight is 9g and diameter is 30.7 mm.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Thank you so much. You people on this site are awesome. About the other book, not necessary, or I'll have to give you a list of the other coins in the collection to maintain consistency. I will look for the book for my own reference however.
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United States
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Hi Rikcando.. consistency is good  but I am going to bed very soon.. it's been a very long 2 days for me! So if someone else does not have this same book, this could just be for your info. I bet someone else has it, though, and can chime in if you need any other coins priced from it. In the Spinks book... the 1866 penny is 75 pounds in XF. 1895 3 pence in F is 1 pound. VF:3 XF:10 Remember to do the UK pounds to US dollars conversion if needed for your use. The book I'm looking in is Coins of England & the United Kingdom, 44th Edition, Standard Catalogue of British Coins... Spink 2009 It's a great book.. definitely worth the purchase price if you look at a lot of British coins  Edited for horrendous spelling.. wow! lol!
Edited by xshift 11/20/2009 8:50 pm
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United States
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I have similar figures in Coincraft Catalogue. Just a couple of £ less for the penny, and a couple more £ for the 3d.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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I really appreciate the info. I am just getting into coins foreign to Canada (where I am) and I am looking at quite a learning curve. I thought the Krause book was 'standard' (for lack of a better term). I'd not heard of Spink's until your reply. So maybe I should be learning more about the tools of the trade before looking at the merchandise. I just picked up a bag of 50 British coins for my own collection as a starting base. I was starting my spreadsheet this week end using my Krause. It will do for now, and the technical data should be the same, but I'll look for a copy of the Spink catalog when it comes to valuation. Thanks for the tip.
I also have coins from several other counties. Would Spink be the better route to take for other countries as well?
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United States
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I believe the value of a coin largely depends on the market. I do have a British catalog (Coincraft, not Spink) because of my collection, but when someone from (North) America has a question about value of a British coin I usually quote Krause. Just as an average UK collector wouldn't pay a crazy price for a Lincoln Penny that you can see here.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Well, I only look at the value for an rough idea of what I should pay for a coin. How badly I need it has a bit to do with it as well. For now I'm just starting so I'll be picking up all the more common, cheaper coins first. It will be a while before I need to do any real value hunting, so I'll do a bit more research on the books and buy next years edition. Here's what I've gathered so far, for about $20 Cdn. It will probably take a while to finish grading them.
Year Amount Denom. 1910 1 Farthing 1917 1 Farthing 1917 1 Farthing 1929 1 Farthing 1937 1 Farthing 1944 1 Farthing 1971 2 Pence 1971 2 Pence 1994 2 Pence 1941 3 Pence 1941 3 Pence 1942 3 Pence 1943 3 Pence 1954 3 Pence 1967 3 Pence 1990 5 Pence 1990 5 Pence 1990 5 Pence 1991 5 Pence 1991 5 Pence 1951 6 Pence 1955 6 Pence 1956 6 Pence 1957 6 Pence 1959 6 Pence 1975 10 Pence 1992 10 Pence 2003 10 Pence 1916 1/2 Penny 1923 1/2 Penny 1938 1/2 Penny 1944 1/2 Penny 1944 1/2 Penny 1948 1/2 Penny 1971 1/2 Penny 1971 1/2 Penny 1971 1/2 Penny 1971 1/2 Penny 1974 1/2 Penny 1866 1 Penny 1906 1 Penny 1911 1 Penny 1913 1 Penny 1915 1 Penny 1915 1 Penny 1915 1 Penny 1916 1 Penny 1918 1 Penny 1939 1 Penny 1939 1 Penny 1947 1 Penny 1964 1 Penny 1971 1 Penny 1971 1 Penny 1971 1 Penny 1974 1 Penny 1976 1 Penny 1993 1 Penny 2004 1 Penny 1947 1 Shilling
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United States
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Looks like a nice lot for the money.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Thanks. Some of them are rather beaten up and would have a hard time passing as fine, but I've always been more interested in collecting one of each rather than 'best of' collecting. I upgrade as I come across them at good prices, but for the next while I will be filling in some pretty big holes in the collection.
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Quote: Looks like a nice lot for the money.  I really like British coins, and pick them up in lots whenever I can. I ran out of 2x2 pages yesterday trying to put them all away! Spinks is good for Great Britain - I forget how far back it goes (I put it away again) but at least back to Medieval coins. Tons further back than Krause, anyway. For something like Canadian coins, you would want to pick up a Charlton (comes out every year) and/or a Charest (up to his 7th edition - which just came out!). They have more detailed information and show varieties, as well. Each tells how to grade their particular country's coins. So.. for generalized information, Krause would be good, but for specialized or detailed info, get a specialized book. A *lot* of values in Krause are way off and are inflated even for US coins. There are a lot of specialists here on the forum, so if you only have a few of a certain country you could always ask here.. otherwise they could point you to the book(s) to look for.
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